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Project : The False Elements https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29915.msg380654#msg380654
« on: August 15, 2011, 11:16:07 pm »
Even though our 13th Element got shot down, we still made our mark - The PseudoElement Crucible is open for buisness and could use a little encouragement.

The current goals of this study/project are:

1. Define and expand on Elements, PseudoElements, and how new Elements or PseudoElements would help the game.
2. Discuss and debate possible card ideas that could made off these current cards.
3. Design a series of cards that work on this concept.
4. [OPTIONAL] Find out more about the coding limits of the game's quantum system.

Current Card Cost Classifcations:

New Element: A set of cards with a central elemental theme that uses a new quanta pool.
Pseudo Element: A set of cards with a central elemental theme that does not use a new quanta pool.
Pseudo Quanta: A new cost mechanic that only uses old quanta pools.
Alternate Costs: Any cost mechanic except elemental quanta.

PseudoElement Template tutorial (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,30120.0.html)

Note : While I know there are threads that have listed our other Element ideas, I'm not going to link them just yet - remember the cards designed can theoretically come from a 13th quantum pool rather than a specified one. We should keep an open mind for now.

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Re: Project : The False Elements https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29915.msg380676#msg380676
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 12:37:18 am »
Term clarification
New Element: A set of cards with a central elemental theme that uses a new quanta pool.
Pseudo Element*: A set of cards with a central elemental theme that does not use a new quanta pool.
Pseudo Quanta: A new cost mechanic that only uses old quanta pools.
Alternate Costs: Any cost mechanic except elemental quanta.

*Note: This is my original definition for the term. The Crucible category uses the same word but with a different definition.

Since Zanz has shown reluctance towards New Elements, I think we should bias our focus towards the other 3 categories. However inspiration should not be stoppered.

I see Alternate Costs as useful tools for designers to use to fine tune balance of more difficult designs.
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Re: Project : The False Elements https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29915.msg382883#msg382883
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 01:04:23 am »
Added card clarifications. PseudoTemplate tutorial (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,30120.0.html) made.

I think we can get this project rolling - Emeraldtiger, Rutarete, and I are developing the Duality-cost cards again. Are there any IE members willing to work on the other cards?

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Re: Project : The False Elements https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29915.msg382941#msg382941
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 02:50:00 am »
I have had little luck generating ideas. However I am more than willing to help balance.
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Re: Project : The False Elements https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29915.msg387965#msg387965
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 01:58:40 am »
Bumping this since I haven't really seen much activity around. Is anyone interested?

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Re: Project : The False Elements https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29915.msg393335#msg393335
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 03:00:39 pm »
yes I will help you Z.
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