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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353389#msg353389
« Reply #324 on: June 18, 2011, 09:56:05 pm »
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image 4 or 5 looks the best.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353394#msg353394
« Reply #325 on: June 18, 2011, 10:06:04 pm »
figured id put up multiple versions so there could be some difference in image between basic and upgraded card graphics
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353465#msg353465
« Reply #326 on: June 19, 2011, 02:33:15 am »
and heres an idea for spectre of imagination, along with the PM sent to Zules asking for permission, should we come to that bridge.

Hello Zules,

I noticed you have been inactive for some time, but I hope an email alert may reach you so that you may read this.

I am with the Idea Factory here on the forums and one of the projects we are working on is creating a 13th element for the game.  Part of this is generating artwork to be considered with the cards we create.  For one creature, I have considered altering the colors of the art you have supplied for Gl1tch's warbunny in the past.  I was contacting you to ask for your blessing to use this modified art.  If you feel that you do not want your artwork altered and/or used, please let me know.  Or if you feel you can do a better job of altering the art than I in order to preserve the artworks quality/integrity, I completely understand and would appreciate your effort.  Below are the modified images for your consideration:



Thank you for your time,
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personally i think a bunny being the imaginary creature killing things is hilarious, and only partly due to my love for monty python and the holy grail.

here is a link to warbunny's thread http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15234.0.html

and also a suggestion for mind pillar/tower (messed up the cropping of the image, but you get the idea)
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353748#msg353748
« Reply #327 on: June 19, 2011, 09:24:10 pm »
and just to summarize the list of cards which have had art suggested:
pillar (pending response)

meme (may have been more suggestions?)

shield


or slightly bigger shield

nymph

thalas'


thalas and zblader combined
dragon

thalas'

modified thalas'
psion

by littlemunster
dementia

thalas'

zblader's
specre of imagination (pending response)

zules'
joy

thalas'
mind hunter

ET's

hawanja's
leaving:
Dream Edge (permanent:weapon)
Psychometabolism (spell)
(and the 2 to-be-decided replacement cards)

feel free to correct me, or remind me if i missed anything
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353750#msg353750
« Reply #328 on: June 19, 2011, 09:28:16 pm »
For Mind Nymph, you left out my version as well as the merge between mine and Thalas.

Confusion Guard and Psion are my current art favorites.

As for pillar, I'm not really sure about it. I'm going to try editing one of the old pillar arts, and seeing what comes out of it.

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353752#msg353752
« Reply #329 on: June 19, 2011, 09:32:45 pm »
thats actually where the above pillar came from- a flame pillar art that was developed but never used.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9788.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10073.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10784.0.html
are the threads if you want to try something similar

also added in the nymphs and alternate dragon
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353755#msg353755
« Reply #330 on: June 19, 2011, 09:43:16 pm »
also i noticed that all dragons, with the exception of the upgraded :time dragon, face to the left, i think a flip would be in order.  also, all dragons, except the :water dragon, have some difference in their image from basic>upgraded, so using both versions may be the good way to go there.

and are nymph and confusion guard balance settled, or is there anything else to add before we move on? (i think deciding atk|hp stats is all that's left to do on the nymph?)
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353757#msg353757
« Reply #331 on: June 19, 2011, 09:47:13 pm »
thats actually where the above pillar came from- a flame pillar art that was developed but never used.
I know, I was referring to those threads actually. ^^;

Here's what I made:



also i noticed that all dragons, with the exception of the upgraded :time dragon, face to the left, i think a flip would be in order.  also, all dragons, except the :water dragon, have some difference in their image from basic>upgraded, so using both versions may be the good way to go there. Add armor, since all the\ upgraded dragons have some.

and are nymph and confusion guard balance settled, or is there anything else to add before we move on? (i think deciding atk|hp stats is all that's left to do on the nymph?) I think those were decided already. Otherwise, I don't see much else needed to balance with them.

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353758#msg353758
« Reply #332 on: June 19, 2011, 09:55:58 pm »
im not really sure how we would add armor to the dragon without ruining it, to be honest.  thalas may have a good shot, or one of the other artists in the community.  i wouldnt feel comfortable/qualified to make such an edit.

the last distinct mentioning of mind nymph's atk|hp i last saw was in the opening of the cards for balance discussions:
Psi Nymph
     Casting Cost: 9
     Stats: 2|4
    : Dementia
Mind Nymph
     Casting Cost: 9
     Stats: 3|7
      : Dementia


the modified death (or was it darkness?) pillar looks a tad too evil with the spikes, and i too had thought of using the quantum pillar but it is a bit solid-ish.  the flame looks good, i just think it should have a more varied color range to show its intangible nature
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353789#msg353789
« Reply #333 on: June 19, 2011, 11:07:00 pm »
alternate pillar versions, combing yours and mine and ranging between them:
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353809#msg353809
« Reply #334 on: June 20, 2011, 12:29:00 am »
Stat Value + Skill Value = 8-9 casting cost
On the assumption that the Skill Value (including the 3|2 activation cost) is 4 [moomoose's estimate earlier]

Psi Nymph
     Casting Cost: 8
     Stats: 4|4
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Mind Nymph
     Casting Cost: 8
     Stats: 5|7
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg353811#msg353811
« Reply #335 on: June 20, 2011, 12:32:03 am »
^^ This looks very solid to me.
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