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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339659#msg339659
« Reply #168 on: May 24, 2011, 05:04:54 pm »
So a symmetrically Eye or brain is called for IHMO. Could even be as simple as [backward "n"]"n".
I understand that mine is too basic for a representation, at least consider a grey mark on the scale since it hasn't been used yet in the game.
about that eye thing Assuming we are going to let the community help us out:

the eye is an already take idea by pokemon which is essentially the representation of a variation of the same concept we are doing, I doubt people will deem it as "original":
Despite this one not being involved directly in the game mechanics, It is still of psychic/mind essence which interferes with the card game:

An eye is a good idea imo, but I think in terms of originality related with "Mind", It is lacking IMHO.
I propose an "Indirect" symbolism of mind, meaning an indirect, symmetric representation such as  :darkness  :time or  :light .


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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339664#msg339664
« Reply #169 on: May 24, 2011, 05:09:17 pm »
how about something that looks like a chain or a thought cloud?
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339665#msg339665
« Reply #170 on: May 24, 2011, 05:10:22 pm »
What about a Labyrinth? Seems to be potentially cool as an icon, represents Mind since it is a complex thing and related to puzzles riddles and whatnot, and can be perfectly symmetrical.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339677#msg339677
« Reply #171 on: May 24, 2011, 05:30:56 pm »
with the tools i have this is what i came up with.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339680#msg339680
« Reply #172 on: May 24, 2011, 05:31:38 pm »
An eye is a good idea imo, but I think in terms of originality related with "Mind", It is lacking IMHO.
I propose an "Indirect" symbolism of mind, meaning an indirect, symmetric representation such as  :darkness  :time or  :light .
If originality can be accomplished without sacrificing clarity then that would be ideal.
Both  :darkness :light have direct symbolism through the coloration. Only  :aether :entropy :time have vague symbolism and those are the elements whose essence is confused the most. We should not aim for indirect symbolism just to achieve originality. The strength of a symbol is in its clarity not is rarity.

I think we need to stay away from color schemes that symbolize unaffiliated like Gray does. Mind may not be affiliated with any of the other elements (yet) but that is because it is its own faction. Gray being a color of neutrality does not fit Mind.

A labyrinth could work. It would represent the network of neural links, the complexity of personalities and the riddling aspect of the intellect.
For color scheme I would suggest a mix of blue and purple. Halfway between Death and Water. (or Entropy and Aether)
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339682#msg339682
« Reply #173 on: May 24, 2011, 05:34:13 pm »
odd way of thinking about the symbol should be original at the expense of correlation, in my opinion the eye is the best fit, as flame is to fire and wings are to air- which are in no way shape or form novel.

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339688#msg339688
« Reply #174 on: May 24, 2011, 05:44:28 pm »
odd way of thinking about the symbol should be original at the expense of correlation, in my opinion the eye is the best fit, as flame is to fire and wings are to air- which are in no way shape or form novel.

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I agree. The eye is the best symbol for the mind. Its common usage is a symptom of a great symbolic connection. Every ccg I have played (even mtg. see kraken's eye) has recognized that the eye is a great symbol for the mind.

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339855#msg339855
« Reply #175 on: May 24, 2011, 11:16:51 pm »
I voted for eye.  As Oldtrees said it's sybolism is what I like about it best, as well as the symetrical beauty of it.
On that note : I already have an image idea drawn in my mind for the mark but currently lack the time to be able to draw it.

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339881#msg339881
« Reply #176 on: May 24, 2011, 11:48:19 pm »
Hold on,

One more for Labyrinth style:



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Some for the eye:

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg339956#msg339956
« Reply #177 on: May 25, 2011, 02:25:35 am »
Hmm, I actually liked the white coloration of the mind mark. Here is what I made based on what I had in mind:

 

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg340004#msg340004
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg340031#msg340031
« Reply #179 on: May 25, 2011, 04:21:26 am »
Hey, look, it's an ancient symbol for sex that someone modified slightly to fit into the astrological paradigm.  Gotta say, I don't mind, but I still like the eye better. :)
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