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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330229#msg330229
« Reply #108 on: May 09, 2011, 10:31:48 pm »
Psilink is a good idea ZBlader.

@Flayne and moomoose.
Your topic became irrelevant as soon as you both agreed that hypnosis would work instead of biofeedback or ideometer. Please stick to the project topic instead of derailing to discuss how you each presented your arguments.

Bonus Creature: Meme
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     Atk: 2|3
     HP: 4|5
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List of card ideas so far:
Pillar: Mental Pillar|Mental Tower
Pendulum: Mind Pendulum|Mind Pendulum
Shield: Confusion Guard
Weapon: Dream Edge
Bonus Permanent: Revenge
Bonus Permanent: Morale
Bonus Permanent: Psi Link
Bonus Permanent: Psi Spire
Alchemy: Dementia
Bonus Spell: Joy
Bonus Spell: Forget
Bonus Spell: Forget
Nymph: Psi Nymph|Mind Nymph
Dragon: Psi Dragon|Mind Dragon
Bonus Creature: Mind Hunter
Bonus Creature: Spectre of Imagination
Bonus Creature: Meme

Combinations
Army
Bonus Permanent: Revenge / Bonus Permanent: Morale (alternate versions we should pick 1)
Bonus Permanent: Psi Link
Bonus Creature: Meme
Brainstorm
Weapon: Dream Edge
Bonus Spell: Joy
Bonus Permanent: Psi Spire
Rush
Bonus Spell: Forget/Bonus Spell: Forget (alternate versions we should pick 1)
Dragon: Psi Dragon|Mind Dragon
Bonus Creature: Spectre of Imagination
Stall/Control
Shield: Confusion Guard
Alchemy: Dementia
Nymph: Psi Nymph|Mind Nymph
Bonus Creature: Mind Hunter
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330793#msg330793
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2011, 07:45:08 pm »
one idea that i had seen before in some competition was being able to see the next card in your deck, or next card in your opponents deck, may be nice to integrate that somehow.

perhaps it may be a good idea to come up with a few low-mid cost creatures without abilities as well?
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330803#msg330803
« Reply #110 on: May 10, 2011, 07:54:41 pm »
one idea that i had seen before in some competition was being able to see the next card in your deck, or next card in your opponents deck, may be nice to integrate that somehow.

perhaps it may be a good idea to come up with a few low-mid cost creatures without abilities as well?
Good ideas.
I would also like it if we had ~2 competing versions for each category (shield, weapon, Dragon, Nymph ...)

Perhaps a permanent card that reveals the top card of both decks (cost 3|2?)
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330829#msg330829
« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2011, 08:29:09 pm »
one idea that i had seen before in some competition was being able to see the next card in your deck, or next card in your opponents deck, may be nice to integrate that somehow.

perhaps it may be a good idea to come up with a few low-mid cost creatures without abilities as well?
Good ideas.
I would also like it if we had ~2 competing versions for each category (shield, weapon, Dragon, Nymph ...)

Perhaps a permanent card that reveals the top card of both decks (cost 3|2?)
Sounds good to me.
Psi Spire | Psigate
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You can see the top card of your deck.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330838#msg330838
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2011, 08:36:25 pm »
one idea that i had seen before in some competition was being able to see the next card in your deck, or next card in your opponents deck, may be nice to integrate that somehow.

perhaps it may be a good idea to come up with a few low-mid cost creatures without abilities as well?
Good ideas.
I would also like it if we had ~2 competing versions for each category (shield, weapon, Dragon, Nymph ...)

Perhaps a permanent card that reveals the top card of both decks (cost 3|2?)
Sounds good to me.
Psi Spire | Psigate
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Oldtrees, please add Psi Link to the OP when possible.
Psi Link is in the OP (I misnamed it Mindlink IIRC)
Psi Spire will be added in a moment.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330972#msg330972
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2011, 10:54:55 pm »
I just thought of some issues with meme as it exists, the lesser issue is that mitosis is more of physiological thing- but I get where you were going with it being a meme.  the larger issue is that if you have something with a base ability of mitosis, the rate at which they double is rather fast, 1-2-4-8-16 if you have the quanta to pay for them.  maybe have meme be an ability crossed between deja vu and mitosis, in which a copy is made and the new copy has the meme ability, but the original does not maintain it after use?  this would make a linear progression and may be easier to balance, while still fitting the meme theme
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg330988#msg330988
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2011, 11:15:07 pm »
I just thought of some issues with meme as it exists, the lesser issue is that mitosis is more of physiological thing- but I get where you were going with it being a meme.  the larger issue is that if you have something with a base ability of mitosis, the rate at which they double is rather fast, 1-2-4-8-16 if you have the quanta to pay for them.  maybe have meme be an ability crossed between deja vu and mitosis, in which a copy is made and the new copy has the meme ability, but the original does not maintain it after use?  this would make a linear progression and may be easier to balance, while still fitting the meme theme
Memes do increase rather fast. (not quite a simple exponential but at least an S curve.) I can increase the AC to balance.
Or the skill name can change to Meme or Propagate for a 1 time use.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg331045#msg331045
« Reply #115 on: May 11, 2011, 12:23:14 am »
of the options, i like meme having a skill meme, like deja vu having the skill deja vu


i wish i had taken psychology more recently, im sure there are some good terms and animal references we could use to make creatures/cards
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg331232#msg331232
« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2011, 03:53:35 am »
real quick before i forget, it may be fun to put a babelfish in as a spell sort of like the shard of readiness.  the basic idea would be that the target creature/perm 's ability would change cost to either random quanta or mark quanta, whichever makes more sense or is more interesting/useful.  i would suggest that in order to make this an appealing alternative to shard, that the babelfish's quanta cost be 1|0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_fish_%28The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy%29#Babel_fish

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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg331253#msg331253
« Reply #117 on: May 11, 2011, 04:35:25 am »
I like the idea of using a reference to babelfish however I do not think that that mechanic fits.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg331402#msg331402
« Reply #118 on: May 11, 2011, 12:11:54 pm »
base creature without abilities-

name: Projection | Projection
cost: 3|4
ATK: 3|6
HP: 4|4

stats/costs in line with abyss crawler, but lower hp in the up.

and glancing at the dragon before i head out the door, the stats could use a little tweeking to make them more in line with :entropy or :water dragons, i believe they have similar HP ranges but better atk:cost ratios than psi/mind dragons
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg331411#msg331411
« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2011, 12:32:57 pm »
Random Idea is random:

Psychometabolism | Psychometabolism
Spell
4 | 3
Target creature gains +1/+0 for every card in your hand.

Biofeedback | Biofeedback
Permanent
4 | 3
Every time you play a spell, you gain 5 hp.
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