New Passive Abilities

[OldTrees]

Devourer's passive is pretty central.  Also, I ninja-edited. 

It could be argued that facing damage-based CC is situational, just like Wings, yet we also have the Airborne passive.

Good point. I guess the difference between Innate and Perpetual is only whether it can or should not be removable.
(No Dune Scorpion? )

[johannhowitzer]

Woops, yes Dune Scorpion, adding it!

The buff to Plate Armor is especially interesting.  I should also add which flown weapons would have it.

[EmeraldTiger]

I am going to be hosting a competition for Passive skills, soon as Zblader says go.
What criteria should we be looking for?

[OldTrees]

Toxic (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23319.msg317131.html): Inflict 2 poison on the owner of this card if discarded.

[Flayne]

I am going to be hosting a competition for Passive skills, soon as Zblader says go.
What criteria should we be looking for?

-originality in concept
-originality in mechanics
-compatibilty with general game mechanics
-synergy potential with other card/elements
-appropriate within game boundaries (OP or not OP or UP)

I suppose those are the general criteria it should have, as i see it anyway.

[EmeraldTiger]

I need someone to better define how to tell the difference between innate active and perpetual passive.

[moomoose]

only thing really set in stone as far as i am concerned being innate can be lobo'd, while perpetual cannot be. 

personally i would like it if creatures could have an innate and an activated ability, and any number of perpetual abilities/status effects

[OldTrees]

only thing really set in stone as far as i am concerned being innate can be lobo'd, while perpetual cannot be. 

personally i would like it if creatures could have an innate and an activated ability, and any number of perpetual abilities/status effects

How would Lobo affect a creature with both Innate and Activated abilities?

[moomoose]

the same way lobo affects creatures with momentum and <picking a random active ability> ...growth, it will remove both.

[moomoose]

for the end date of the competition, i think 2 weeks is sufficient time for people to develop card ideas.
for the number of submissions per person, i would personally allow for a cap of 2 ideas, each with an up/unupped card

but a good question is are we looking for innates, perpetuals or both? given their relatively little difference, id go with both.

unless we differentiate innates and perpetuals by requiring a perpetual to be a theme shared by many creatures, such as airborne, and force non-theme non-active abilities to be innates?

[OldTrees]

for the end date of the competition, i think 2 weeks is sufficient time for people to develop card ideas.
for the number of submissions per person, i would personally allow for a cap of 2 ideas, each with an up/unupped card

but a good question is are we looking for innates, perpetuals or both? given their relatively little difference, id go with both.

unless we differentiate innates and perpetuals by requiring a perpetual to be a theme shared by many creatures, such as airborne, and force non-theme non-active abilities to be innates?

Lets leave the competition as perpetuals (passives) only. That creates the challenge for each member to explain why their idea for a perpetual(passive) should not be an innate(automatic active).

I think that the permanence of perpetuals should define what should be a perpetual vs an innate. Things that are inherent as part of that creature or species (like Poisonous) would fit as Perpetuals because removing it would not make sense.

[moomoose]

some skills may likely switch from perpetual to innate, or vice versa then.  i cannot see the reason that vampire and devour are not in the same category, both are essentially consuming and transforming