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I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175630#msg1175630
« on: January 12, 2015, 07:26:36 am »
TL;DR: This deck idea should work. It doesn't want to work. It's angering me. Someone make it work.
Would post in deck help, but would a deck this unfinished really count to go into deck help?


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My name is Frozengaia, and I'm really, really angry right now. When I'm angry, I ramble a great deal, almost to the point where I pretend that you don't know who I am and reintroduce myself as some kind of alter-ego, but I need to get this out of my system.

My main kink with elements is taking really, really bad ideas - Skeleton RT, Virus SouFflé Fractal, Smallbow lucihope... And trying to get them to work. I'm a big fan of inefficiency, in a way.


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This is The Inefficient Pulvy, or TIP.
I have been trying to make this little idea work for about two months, now.
The deck strategy goes like this:
Play a butterfly effected singularity as quickly as possible, and stop it from murdering you by spamming antimatter onto it with the purple nymphs.
Then proceed to use the singularity as a scary pulverizer, and kill the enemy by method X.
What is method X?
I have no clue.

This deck can work. I know it can.
Spoiler for Very Angry Rant:
BUT IT REFUSES TO LISTEN TO REASON
AND IT'S DRIVING ME SO CRAZY
I WANT TO GET AN ACTUAL PULVERIZER AND SMASH THIS IDEA TO OBLIVION
BUT NO
IT TAUNTS ME CONSTANTLY
IT DEMANDS
DEMANDS
THAT I SOLVE IT NO MATTER WHAT
AND MY BRAIN WON'T LET IT GO
BECAUSE MY BRAIN HATES ME
(Wouldn't my brain hate itself then?)

I've tried adrenaline (on the nymphs), only to have the nymphs smegged up by a rage potion
I've tried SoPa to contain the singus - due to my constant antimattering of them, they get bigger and bigger and bigger...
I've tried quintessence, only to have the quints not be able to be drawn due to supernova being a goit
I've tried SoR
I've tried decking out the enemy
I've tried catapult

Nothing, NOTHING works. But something there, SOMETHING, is possible.
I know it
But no
NOoojhbixdtjhxzftk
It just won't let me touch its glorious innards
Why do you torment me so, TIP

... *Coughs and apologises profusely*

Anyway, I give up.
And I'm going to beg without any form of diginity - Can someone please make this wretched abomination able to grind AI2-3,  with what its doing - singularity pulveriser - as its main wincon?

Thank you for your time. Sorry for ranting in your ear.
And now you may leave and do your task.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2015, 08:05:25 am by Frozengaia »

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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175631#msg1175631
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 07:55:06 am »
Wouldn't it be easier to use mutations on the singularities instead? That'd probably help the damage output as well. And if you're using supernovae, you're going to have a lot of quanta. You could very easily make this into a rainbow instead of focusing so strongly on the BE combo.
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175632#msg1175632
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2015, 07:56:00 am »
Wouldn't it be easier to use mutations on the singularities instead? That'd probably help the damage output as well. And if you're using supernovae, you're going to have a lot of quanta. You could very easily make this into a rainbow instead of focusing so strongly on the BE combo.
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175633#msg1175633
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2015, 08:02:19 am »
Wouldn't it be easier to use mutations on the singularities instead? That'd probably help the damage output as well. And if you're using supernovae, you're going to have a lot of quanta. You could very easily make this into a rainbow instead of focusing so strongly on the BE combo.

But then I wouldn't be using butterfly effect on a singularity, and proceeding to use that singularity as a pulveriser.

Another reason this isn't in deck help is because the deck itself is supposed to be bad - I'm trying to take something that's really terrible and make it playable. There's no point to what I'm doing if I don't focus so strongly on the BE combo - that's the entire point of this exercise.

As for using a rainbow as a means to get the BE combo working, the problem is:
I have to use supernovas alone to get non-entropy quanta if I want to get my nymphs out quickly. This is a lot more limiting than it sounds.

Although, if you mean AFTER I've pulvied the enemy, it could work fine.
I struggle the most getting the combo out in the first place, though.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2015, 08:08:42 am by Frozengaia »

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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175636#msg1175636
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2015, 08:15:33 am »
The Lycanthropes you had earlier were a good addition. SoPa+Catapult and some Precogs might help. Then we have 5 elements used out of 12 instead of only 1. 1-2 of each is probably enough.
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175637#msg1175637
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015, 09:03:49 am »
With the extra quanta, having flying pulvys and explosions would help

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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175638#msg1175638
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2015, 09:14:53 am »
I don't find this fun, actually. BE is a very strong card IF you know in what kind of meta to put it and how to use it.
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175639#msg1175639
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2015, 09:43:33 am »
I don't find this fun, actually. BE is a very strong card IF you know in what kind of meta to put it and how to use it.
The "meta" is AI2/3. The deck is intentionally based off of a bad combo (Singularity+BE). Frozen is trying to have fun by making weak combos into viable decks, considering there is little left to do in the form of deckbuilding.
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175640#msg1175640
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2015, 10:10:01 am »
I don't find this fun, actually. BE is a very strong card IF you know in what kind of meta to put it and how to use it.
The "meta" is AI2/3. The deck is intentionally based off of a bad combo (Singularity+BE). Frozen is trying to have fun by making weak combos into viable decks, considering there is little left to do in the form of deckbuilding.

Hmm, I see. I missed the point of this topic a little bit. Ty. :)
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175649#msg1175649
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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175690#msg1175690
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2015, 06:12:13 pm »
Been there, done that, failed too :(

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Re: I give up. (The Inefficient Pulvy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57361.msg1175702#msg1175702
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2015, 07:11:43 pm »
The main problem with this is that, if a Singularity quints itself or uses vampire on itself, you lose your BE skill. As such, this cannot work. However, it can still be made interesting if you use AM on your own Purple Nymph and proceed to BE -that-, and meanwhile attempt to use something like SoPa to stall singularities and go for a Singu OTK.

 

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