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Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221481#msg1221481
« on: January 29, 2016, 03:26:23 pm »
So this was in chat last night:
Spoiler for Inspiration:
[2016-01-29 00:47:32] kirbylover314: AI replaces weapons when there's another one with a higher cost iirc
[2016-01-29 00:47:47] kirbylover314: Might have to do something with that and Dirk costing 0
[2016-01-29 00:47:53] Mr_Muffin: they both cost zero
[2016-01-29 00:48:14] Mr_Muffin: if they were different it might make a little sense
[2016-01-29 00:48:54] dawn_to_dusk: I bet it replaces Duck Shield with Fog Shield
[2016-01-29 00:49:23] Mr_Muffin: but everyone loves Duck shield
[2016-01-29 00:49:53] Linkcat: It replaces with the same cost too.
[2016-01-29 00:51:03] Arum: Duck Shield... spawns 3/3 ducks when attacked with more than 7 damage
[2016-01-29 00:51:11] Arum: (Total)
[2016-01-29 00:51:19] Arum: So you can't just do 3 adrenaline critters
[2016-01-29 00:53:04] Mr_Muffin: what a lovely thing to go in the cygnia

And, because I was bored, I decided to go through with it!  :D
(I'm not expecting this to be serious.)

NAME:
Duck Shield
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
7 :life
TYPE:
Permanent (Shield)
ATK|HP:
N/A
TEXT:
Shield:  When hit for 7+ damage total, a 3|3 Duck
(:life :life :life) is summoned to your field.
NAME:
Swan Shield
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
7 :life
TYPE:
Permanent (Shield)
ATK|HP:
N/A
TEXT:
Shield:  When hit for 7+ damage total, a 3|6 Swan
(:life :life :life :life) is summoned to your field.

ART:
N/A
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dawn to dusk, Mr Muffin, Arum, Silver Emerald
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If people think this is serious enough to actually be submitted as a card, I'll go ahead and do that. If not, I figured it fit in here!
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221494#msg1221494
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 04:51:21 pm »
I love it!
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221495#msg1221495
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 04:54:32 pm »
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221497#msg1221497
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 05:12:50 pm »
That's not half bad. Maybe a bit overpriced. It would certainly have synergy with bonds.

But that means we can't call dusk shields ducks anymore.
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221500#msg1221500
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 06:54:38 pm »
But that means we can't call dusk shields ducks anymore.
D:

Since this is a humor card, you don't have to take any of the following seriously if you don't want to. I think this could be submitted as a card. I like it :) But before that, I have a few suggestions.
What you do for the duck, is below the table for Duck Shield you add another table for Duck | Swan - that's where its casting cost and stats go.

For the text:
"Shield: If you received 7 or greater damage on the opponent's turn, spawn a Duck | Swan."
OR
"Shield: Whenever you take 7 or more damage, spawn a Duck | Swan."
(I included the part about the opponent in case you don't want this to be trigger-able by bolting yourself. Or trigger by poison.)
The way it is, you're practically guaranteed a free Abyss Crawler every (other) turn. It's like Mitosis with an hp cost. Probably lower the cost for both upped and unupped by 2 or so.

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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221502#msg1221502
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 07:05:22 pm »
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It's like Mitosis with an hp cost.

That's actually a false assumption, this does not have an HP cost, because it is hp you would have lost anyway
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221508#msg1221508
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 07:22:56 pm »
If you lose more than seven health a turn, an extra 3 | 3 creature isn't going to do much.

I suggest the following changes.

Duck Shield

5 :life

Shield: When damaged, spawn X/4 Ducks, where X is damage taken.

Swan Shield

5 :life

Shield; When damaged, spawn X/4 Swans, where X is damage taken.

Round down.

Dragons will spawn 3 ducks per attack, and considering that you'll likely die before your field is full of 3/3 ducks dealing 69 damage a turn, I don't think it's that powerful. This also allows for medium-level creatures to flourish (5-6 damage), as they will only spawn one duck instead of 3 like dragons or 0 ducks if attacked by adrenalined 2 | 2 creatures.

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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221525#msg1221525
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 08:21:54 pm »
If you lose more than seven health a turn, an extra 3 | 3 creature isn't going to do much.

On the contrary, it ramps damage, to complement the damage from your own creatures. Couple this with a green nymph and those innocent ducks start dealing 12 damage per turn.

Plus, taking more than 7 damage in one turn is pretty common, even if you are winning.
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221526#msg1221526
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 08:25:42 pm »
7 damage is one upgraded Lava Golem, one morning star, one Titan. Hardly insta lose.

Looks pretty balanced as it is to me tbh. 7 mana for what will likely be a 3/3 every turn, similar to the cost/value of a Firefly Queen, but without the ability mana cost
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221534#msg1221534
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2016, 09:16:56 pm »
This is humor but I actually like it a lot. Its a pretty unique effect, and it fits really well into life.


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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221546#msg1221546
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2016, 10:36:28 pm »
Totally submit it. People like it, it's an unusual shield and provides a lot of in-element ability with adrenaline, as pointed out.

I do like my sister's idea of spawning based on damage received, but as it currently is is great.
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Re: Duck Shield | Swan Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61066.msg1221547#msg1221547
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Is it viable to change it to spawning a horned frog/giant frog?
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