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Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243550#msg243550
« on: January 08, 2011, 11:56:01 pm »
Ends http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=11&year=2011&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
TTL=turns to lose
Yup, so put together any deck(trainer's 100X quanta allowed) then complete 20 games with any AI, which means no T50, PVP1, or PVP2.
Post you're TTL entry like this:

TTL: (insert TTL average)
Deck: (insert deck)
Screenshots: (insert 3 screenshots of the details page as proof)
and please, be honest

#1:
TTL: .15
Player: morningstar
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7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb
#2:
TTL: .3
Player: QuantumT
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7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 80a 80a 80a 80a 80a 80a
#3:
TTL: 3.75
Player: Mastermind79
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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243553#msg243553
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 11:59:43 pm »
Can you use 100x in trainer?

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243554#msg243554
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 12:00:05 am »
Can you use 100x in trainer?
yes i should put that in there

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243567#msg243567
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 12:13:09 am »
If that's the case then I submit this as my deck. I'll return with TTL as soon as I finish.

Edit:Actually I think I'll scratch that. I think I can do better

New deck. TTL vs FGs
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7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 80a 80a 80a 80a 80a 80a
TTL=.3

0 turn-14
1 turn-6

I'm fairly certain that there's no better deck to use.

Are screenshots really necessary? You just target yourself with everything and you can kill yourself immediately most of the time.

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243575#msg243575
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 12:23:05 am »
Reserving this spot for this deck vs FGs
Turns to lose = 0.15
(17 x turn 0, 3x turn 1)

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243589#msg243589
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 12:49:07 am »
I'm pretty sure everyone will get TTL ~ 0.00 with the moar quanta option. I suggest not to use that and add game time as well. and beat my 61 seconds record! tee hee..

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243591#msg243591
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 12:50:54 am »
and beat my 61 seconds record! tee hee.. [/size]
On my laptop? no chance :P It takes a good half a minute to flip the coin on some occasions

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243592#msg243592
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 12:53:04 am »
Morningstar's luck must just be better than mine, because my deck is mathematically better.

The dials can't be used until the second turn and I didn't have any games longer than 1, so dials wouldn't have changed anything. I did have games that would have been a 1 instead of a 0 if I had dials instead of lightning though.

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243595#msg243595
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 12:58:36 am »
Morningstar's luck must just be better than mine, because my deck is mathematically better.

The dials can't be used until the second turn and I didn't have any games longer than 1, so dials wouldn't have changed anything. I did have games that would have been a 1 instead of a 0 if I had dials instead of lightning though.
Yes it probably was just luck though, as I got several rush gods who assisted me. Now I need to get lucky with the Oracle XD

I had no games where lightning would have brought my turns down, but I would have used them if I had actually put a little thought into the deck.

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243596#msg243596
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 01:01:51 am »
Yes it probably was just luck though, as the ttw are only 0.15 apart. Now I need to get lucky with the Oracle XD

I had no games where lightning would have brought my turns down, but I would have used them if I had actually put a little thought into the deck.
I had one game that I distinctly remember where I got 2 Fire Bolts, an Ice Bolt, and 3 Thunderbolts (which is exactly 100 damage) and another where I got 3 Fire Bolts and 2 Thunderbolts.

Also FWIW, I just took a screenshot of a 13 second loss.

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243599#msg243599
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 01:06:57 am »
Excellent. I know that a lot of these will be self-deckouts, but let me try something different.

TTL: 3.75

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Against FGs.

currently working on another one...

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Re: Challenge: fastest TTL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19117.msg243668#msg243668
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 03:05:06 am »
I was curious so I decided to run some numbers. My deck wins on turn 0 63% of the time if you're relying solely on your own damage. That percentage will obviously increase slightly if you play against FGs because they'll help you with damage occasionally.

7 cards (you play first) = 54%
8 cards (you play second)= 72%

If I had to guess, playing against FGs won't boost the damage by much, but figuring out the exact numbers would be a huge pain. The final probability probably comes out to something like 2/3.

 

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