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A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1109740#msg1109740
« on: November 16, 2013, 05:57:06 am »
Okay so Relic | Relic is supposed to be a waste card. I get that. But it just seems a little... wasteful. Shouldn't relic be able to just do at least something, however small. It is a rare card after all so I don't see why it can't have an ability. So I came up with this idea to make relic a little more useful.



What do you guys think? It might need to be altered a little bit but I kinda like this new version.

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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1109742#msg1109742
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 06:43:19 am »
Underpowered.

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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1109906#msg1109906
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 01:16:06 am »
I think the unupped version should also include opponent being shot by an rpg. As for upped, 47 viruses sounds more balanced, as 43 is very unerpowered.
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1109908#msg1109908
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 01:27:16 am »
The first one is slightly overpowered.  Might I humbly suggest this card from M:tG's playtesting days?

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/308



The upped version could use the same slight nerf.  However, I am concerned, because the upped version is so easy to counter with antivirus programs.

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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1109913#msg1109913
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 02:02:23 am »
The first one is slightly overpowered.  Might I humbly suggest this card from M:tG's playtesting days?

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/308



The upped version could use the same slight nerf.  However, I am concerned, because the upped version is so easy to counter with antivirus programs.

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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110039#msg1110039
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 06:04:53 pm »
I think the unupped version should also include opponent being shot by an rpg. As for upped, 47 viruses sounds more balanced, as 43 is very unerpowered.
Ya. I believe that 47 may be a bit high. So lets go with 46.
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110113#msg1110113
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 11:04:16 pm »
I feel like this is too expensive. It should be free IMO. Sure, you might say, you can pay for this with your mark. But what if I want to play other cards as well? Then I wouldn't be able to afford this. Lower the cost IMO, maybe 0 for unupped and -1 for upped?
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110117#msg1110117
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 11:34:11 pm »
nerf this card!!! :o
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110156#msg1110156
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 03:51:50 am »
If we nerf it, it will be way too underpowered. If anything it needs to be buffed.
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110198#msg1110198
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 08:44:56 am »
If we nerf it, it will be way too underpowered. If anything it needs to be buffed.

That is for sure...

Maybe make it so that the upped one makes the opponent lose not only the current game, but the next game he plays as well? But in exchange, you probably should reduce the viruses to 40.

Another question about the mechanic of this card:
If you play it while the opponent has a Sosac active, will it cause the opponents lifepoints to become infinite?
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110224#msg1110224
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 01:18:31 pm »
then buff the card 8)
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Re: A new idea for Relic? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52374.msg1110245#msg1110245
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 04:10:55 pm »
Unupped should also redirect the opponent to a random shock site.
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