Post by: majofa on July 13, 2010, 07:11:35 pm
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Enchant Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.
(Start the Shield chain early, otherwise, he'll Fire Lance you to death.)
Post by: BurnOne on September 05, 2010, 10:07:08 pm
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I also thought about Dark & Entropy Pendulums and additional 2 miracle, but that should perform better, even thought it´s a more elegant deck ;)
EDIT:
Performs not too bad against Octane (-sundials + mirror shields), Obliterator (-all light cards & mark change) and Miracle too.
Post by: tyedyeguy on September 09, 2010, 12:03:05 pm
I just tried out your deck against Hermes. And the logic of the reflection shield (for fire lance) is solid, and the antimatters and Liquid shadows make sense.
But how does one damage hermes to WIN said duel against him?
He had his lava golems out, and pumped, and I AM'd them...and I liquid shadows his other creatures.
So I got all healed up for a bit
But then his farenheight obliterated me.
It's a fast, neat deck, and I can see it has potential, but it definitely needs some adjustment before you can said it could have ANY sort of success against any of the FG's you listed.
Thanks for posting the deck suggestion, but fair warning to anyone ELSE who tries it - you'll need to make adjustments if you expect to actually win your challenge against Hermes.
Post by: smuglapse on September 09, 2010, 01:00:20 pm
so, burnone...When you play LS on an antimattered creature, it heals you and hurts them. So play them both on a large Destroyer and it will do the work for you.
I just tried out your deck against Hermes. And the logic of the reflection shield (for fire lance) is solid, and the antimatters and Liquid shadows make sense.
But how does one damage hermes to WIN said duel against him?
He had his lava golems out, and pumped, and I AM'd them...and I liquid shadows his other creatures.
So I got all healed up for a bit
But then his farenheight obliterated me.
It's a fast, neat deck, and I can see it has potential, but it definitely needs some adjustment before you can said it could have ANY sort of success against any of the FG's you listed.
Thanks for posting the deck suggestion, but fair warning to anyone ELSE who tries it - you'll need to make adjustments if you expect to actually win your challenge against Hermes.
Post by: Nume on September 10, 2010, 04:34:58 am
Post by: Avenger on September 26, 2010, 07:55:26 am
Post by: Nume on September 27, 2010, 06:55:11 pm
Post by: kobisjeruk on October 15, 2010, 07:30:48 am
there are 20 growing creatures in total, combined with rage elixirs and fahrenheit, you're looking at...not enough AM+LS combo to negate or even kill the FG before they kill you
Post by: $$$man on October 15, 2010, 12:35:26 pm
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Post by: Krahhl on October 15, 2010, 01:06:17 pm
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Post by: kobisjeruk on October 15, 2010, 02:13:46 pm
In theorythe thing about theory is just that...
and no, its not should...more like a could
IF
he didnt draw any destroyer/plated armor/spectre/dragon/lance/explosion AT ALL
if he drew brimstone eaters 20 turns in a row, then maybe you can kill him with your suggested deck
fire buckler does nothing against growthed golems
3 turns to kill unarmed spectre (2+4+6=12 damage done)
9 turns to kill armed spectre (2+...+18=90 damage done)
2 turns to kill unarmed dragon (30 damage done)
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etc
try to at least test your idea beforehand to see what work and what wouldnt
Post by: Marvaddin on October 15, 2010, 05:44:30 pm
Post by: Nume on October 15, 2010, 10:18:48 pm
Post by: kobisjeruk on October 23, 2010, 07:22:13 pm
Thorn Carapace + epic healing?godofdeath...is this your multi?
Life for heal and carapace
Earth for PA
um... how to get lots of creatures?
quinted FFQ? Fractal his brimstone eaters? that might work. Can't test it out though
Post by: The_Mormegil on January 01, 2011, 12:02:04 pm
needs some decks that work well specifcally against HermesI used a slightly different version of this: no quintessence (it's more trouble than it's worth) and 3 SoG. For Explosion bait. I used a mostly upped deck, though...
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Protect Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.Code: [Select]592 592 592 592 592 592 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621
If your hand doesn't suck, and his hand isn't an autowin, you have decent chances. I won.
Strategy is simple: get the quanta for dimensional shield and enchant artifact, once you're almost dead chain Dim Shields with enchant artifact (but beware of Fire Bolts! Keep the shields up if your life is less than 40 or so).
If you can't play them in pairs, you're dead. If you can't keep it up, you're dead. Shards are there not for healing but for protecting your towers and making him waste explosions (in the case you are without a protect artifact for the dim shield). Twin Universe a Golem FAST (wait for him to get to around 10 in health first, though) to make him waste Fire Lances on it. Twin Universe really grown golems for damage. You can grow them too, if you have excess quanta...
Post by: Optimalist on January 10, 2011, 04:52:14 pm
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592 592 61r 61r 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rq 77i 77i 77i 77i 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80b 80b 80b 80b 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80dI used a slightly different version of this: no quintessence (it's more trouble than it's worth) and 3 SoG. For Explosion bait. I used a mostly upped deck, though...
Post by: deluxeloy on January 10, 2011, 06:33:12 pm
needs some decks that work well specifcally against Hermestried this one but failed miserably. got almost no pillars, and lost them right away. I barely got enough quanta for one shield.
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Protect Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.Code: [Select]592 592 592 592 592 592 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621
too bad.... :'(
Post by: Krahhl on January 10, 2011, 09:57:17 pm
Post by: deluxeloy on February 11, 2011, 07:50:59 am
You don't need the quints. When you TU destroyers, they're usually big enough to take a fire lance or two, and you'd rather have him target the destroyers than your face anyway. If you replace them with pillars, you should be fine. You probably want to take out one pillar though to cut it down to 30 cards, since many losses come from not drawing a shield or protect artifact to keep the chain going.hurray! this one worked! he almost fireballed me to death, but it held!
thank you!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 16, 2011, 07:31:45 am
Post by: johannhowitzer on April 13, 2011, 09:16:59 am
Post by: Chodos on April 15, 2011, 02:19:04 pm
Post by: majofa on April 15, 2011, 08:49:10 pm
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on April 19, 2011, 08:12:20 pm
Post by: papipapo514 on May 05, 2011, 06:48:18 am
So i kept on anti-matter his monsters, great for my HP but he fire bolted me a lot till i draw jade shield and made dark nymph on 10th turn.
It was closed, i was at 17 HP, i think he could killed me with a rush but i finally won :))
I guess i was lucky, Hermes is not very friendly FG
This is the deck i used, if it ll be usefull ...
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Post by: Avenger on May 05, 2011, 03:15:27 pm
needs some decks that work well specifcally against Hermes+1 pillar -1 PU helps a little with quantum balance.
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Protect Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.
(Start the Shield chain early, otherwise, he'll Fire Lance you to death.)Code: [Select]592 592 592 592 592 592 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
Post by: dunsel on May 11, 2011, 01:58:23 pm
Thanks for the deck.
Post by: automeris on June 12, 2011, 05:03:57 pm
I won with mastery. I did get a good draw. I got a quinted and sharded Purple Nymph on turn 3, and I drew my Explosion and a Supernova before he played the only Fire Buckler I saw. He played two dragons fairly early, which kept me constantly healing 30 a turn whatever he managed to do with his growing creatures. I never liquid shadowed those two.
I also had a pet Shrödinger's Cat, which drew an early fire bolt. He hit me with several firebolts, then usually healed me right up after.
Ready & Waiting (adjusted for Hermes)
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Post by: Anothebrother on June 26, 2011, 06:38:18 pm
:death :
Poison
Bonewall
Plague
Arsenic
:time
Sundial
Hourglass
Eternity
Turt. Shield
:light
Sanctuary
Morning Glory
Miracles
Reflective shield?
:rainbow
SoG
SoD
Animate?
I feel like something with these elements could work but every time i end up making it too busy and too much is going on
Post by: Xenocidius on July 08, 2011, 07:12:20 am
I didn't get a PA early enough, so I had to sacrifice a shield to stall him. I was down to 10 HP by the time I started the chain. He firebolted me twice, bringing me down to 4 HP. I PUed a 27|5 Lava Destroyer a few times to draw firebolts away, and killed him quickly. It was then I noticed that you can actually grow the Lava Destroyers after Puing them. A surprisingly effective counter.
Post by: Jaymanfu on July 08, 2011, 07:22:00 am
Post by: Viveleslardons on July 11, 2011, 08:50:32 am
needs some decks that work well specifcally against HermesIt didn't works for me for this first try, I had only one shield that I used as soon as possible (turn 3 or 4). I used 2 parallel universe during this time of protection, but then.. I have been dead really fast!
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Protect Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.
(Start the Shield chain early, otherwise, he'll Fire Lance you to death.)Code: [Select]592 592 592 592 592 592 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
I'll try another time ;)
Maybe could you edit instructions too? (there aren't protect artifact anymore ;) )
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on July 12, 2011, 07:46:43 pm
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Post by: Jaymanfu on July 12, 2011, 09:34:20 pm
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on July 12, 2011, 09:42:23 pm
Im guessing its supposed to be darkness mark?Wow apparently I'm prone to silly mistakes. Also thanks :D
Post by: Viveleslardons on July 15, 2011, 01:01:33 pm
Yeah today I succeed with this one! (and I won 1 upped card ;D )needs some decks that work well specifcally against Hermes+1 pillar -1 PU helps a little with quantum balance.
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Protect Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.
(Start the Shield chain early, otherwise, he'll Fire Lance you to death.)Code: [Select]592 592 592 592 592 592 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
It pretty difficult because he killed 2 times my golem with Fire Bolt (when he has 60 :fire it's hard to resist), so I got very lucky to have a third PU at the end of the game!! :) (and at the end he could kill him too I think, but he used Fire Bolt on my pv, why? Why just this time?)
Maybe one quintessence could be useful.
Thnaks for the deck!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 08, 2011, 07:25:06 am
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/647/hermesdead.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/hermesdead.jpg/)
Lost 1 tower turn 1 before I could protect them. Also lost a pillar a few turns later because it was in a separate unprotected stack. Bolted one golem and took hits until I had to put the protected shield up. Sat for awhile behind that, then twinned two golems. One was immediately killed with about 3x lances + firestorm, and the other one went to town. I drew a third twin universe and the golems did the rest while I hid behind another protected shield. It took me a few turns to realize I actually had earth quanta to pump the golems, but that didn't cost me, fortunately :p
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on August 08, 2011, 07:12:04 pm
Post by: Bhlewos on August 27, 2011, 01:33:50 pm
I finally beat Hermes with this deck, but i had a good draw cause i made a purple nymph with SOR/quintessence on 3rd turn.Used this deck, didn't know what mark it was so used Entropy on a hunch (I see now that it's water). Quanta wasn't a problem though, as you can see by the screenshot below.
So i kept on anti-matter his monsters, great for my HP but he fire bolted me a lot till i draw jade shield and made dark nymph on 10th turn.
It was closed, i was at 17 HP, i think he could killed me with a rush but i finally won :))
I guess i was lucky, Hermes is not very friendly FG
This is the deck i used, if it ll be usefull ...Code: [Select]6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rq 6rq 6rq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 77f 77f 77i 7ak 7h0 7h0 7h0 7h0 7t4 7t4 7t4 80h 80h 80h
NB : sry for my poor english
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/BhlewosAQW/ElementsTheGame/hermesEM.png)
To my amazement, I not only beat Hermes but EM'd him. The incredibly lucky draw helped (I put down a first turn Jade Shield), and his lack of early Explosions as well -- I took a gamble and played my unprotected Pulverizer to kill his Fire Buckler, and it paid off -- didn't see another shield for the rest of the game. +rep
Post by: Bhlewos on September 05, 2011, 05:15:47 pm
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/BhlewosAQW/ElementsTheGame/hermesCounter.png)
Post by: ddevans96 on September 05, 2011, 05:21:38 pm
At least it was quick and (mostly) painless.
Post by: willng3 on September 05, 2011, 05:24:09 pm
RAGE. Drew nothing but pillars and EAs in my opening hand, drew two PUs and more pillars afterwards.D:
At least it was quick and (mostly) painless.
I've always thought it to be a near perfect counter too!
Post by: ddevans96 on September 05, 2011, 05:35:24 pm
Post by: Rember on September 05, 2011, 06:02:19 pm
Phase shield confirmed for hide and seek world champion.
Post by: Xamuel on September 20, 2011, 07:39:45 am
Spun not one, but two explosions :-) w00t
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on September 20, 2011, 07:53:24 pm
Tried using this deck but he had a 3rd turn Fire Buckler (:() and never saw a Pulvy or Jade Shield. Pulvy probably wouldn't have mattered though, since he kept about 3 Explosions until the last turn when for some reason he decided to show it all at once.
Post by: Beforememory on September 28, 2011, 10:59:54 pm
I won, got an explosion
TY for deck
Post by: Mataza on October 01, 2011, 03:57:06 pm
I used the deck in the op and died miserably. 4 dim shileds in starting hand, first draw another dim shield. All 3 pillars got exploded by turn 2.
It probably was bad draw, but I cannot believe that people claim Hermes to be beatable without rares and unupped while other (imho easier) FGs are supposedly unbeatable without upped cards.
But mostly I just hate Hermes for being such a damn effective FG.
Post by: ddevans96 on October 02, 2011, 02:40:55 pm
Post by: gumbeh on October 10, 2011, 07:16:16 am
Got hermes at the oracle today and decided to take a peek at the decks people used. I stole the deck here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8652.msg141868#msg141868 and replaced the quints with thunderbolts to take care of creatures in the early game, because quints seemed pretty silly to me in that deck.Firebolted dead. Shard of some kind might help, idk.
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/647/hermesdead.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/hermesdead.jpg/)
Lost 1 tower turn 1 before I could protect them. Also lost a pillar a few turns later because it was in a separate unprotected stack. Bolted one golem and took hits until I had to put the protected shield up. Sat for awhile behind that, then twinned two golems. One was immediately killed with about 3x lances + firestorm, and the other one went to town. I drew a third twin universe and the golems did the rest while I hid behind another protected shield. It took me a few turns to realize I actually had earth quanta to pump the golems, but that didn't cost me, fortunately :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 13, 2011, 07:12:11 am
Schooled Hermes with this variant of Liquid Antimatter. Instead of using some improved dusks or vampire daggers, I just took them out because with all those explosions they'd never survive, anyway. I put in some chaos powers to beef up the creatures before AM/LSing them. Upgrade the rest of the deck if you have the cards, obviously, but other than that, I'm pretty happy with it.
Post by: TStar on October 26, 2011, 09:53:07 pm
???? are upped Shard of Sacrifice
I'm not sure if it'll work unupped since your pillars could get wrecked before you can get a Dune out but there might be a modded version that will work entirely unupped.
P.S.: This deck works pretty well on Graviton and Rainbow as well
Post by: Jappert on October 29, 2011, 09:18:39 am
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5974/hermesowned.jpg)
Post by: Torph on October 31, 2011, 03:08:27 pm
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Post by: Avenger on November 21, 2011, 05:16:59 pm
Post by: ralouf on November 24, 2011, 07:19:18 am
Yeah 8 rare cards.
Post by: furballdn on November 24, 2011, 07:29:00 am
Just EM'd with that : ? ? ? are Sosac.Too bad those SoSacs are one of the rarer rares. *sigh*
Yeah 8 rare cards.
Post by: ralouf on November 24, 2011, 07:32:05 am
Post by: Boingo on January 30, 2012, 03:20:55 am
The Enchant arctifact + phase shield didn't work for me.. got only one phase shield, so it's probably a bad draw. Are there any more reliable decks?Yeah, 1 phase shield in 15 cards is frustrating. I drew 5 TUs but since he was only growing a fire spectre, I waited. Last turn he drops heavy armor on it but since no further shields arrived so Boingo died a firey death.
Post by: coldfusion on February 07, 2012, 04:00:08 pm
Post by: Higurashi on April 23, 2012, 11:20:24 am
Where is there card advantage in spades? That's right, Aether.
Easiest EM I've ever had. I could toy with him with my fat SoD's.
I ran this with 6 Dragons and 12 towers, but I got a 4-tower draw, which won't happen often, and you only actually need 4 Dragons to kill (in the unlikely event he plays Fire Buckler before you play your first Dragon), so here's a hybrid because the only way he can win is by quanta denial.
Winrate: 3-0
Fat EM's: 3
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on May 18, 2012, 07:52:21 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 18, 2012, 09:50:51 pm
Post by: Junkers on June 06, 2012, 08:12:57 am
needs some decks that work well specifcally against Hermes
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Enchant Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.
(Start the Shield chain early, otherwise, he'll Fire Lance you to death.)
This deck works like an absolute charm. Kudos to the designer...
Post by: memimemi on July 11, 2012, 07:44:45 am
Post by: bobknows on July 19, 2012, 11:49:38 pm
as it turned out he deflagged all of my towers, but I got one combo out first and stalled with the SoSacs.
How I think it could be improved: less SoD, more SoSac, and only 5 quint/sow each. with all the growing creatures he has you really only need one combo to win.
this really has a lot of potential, but I'm not the one to perfect it, maybe someone more experienced would like to look at it?
Post by: ShareWarFare on July 28, 2012, 10:08:09 pm
I got nothing in spins, but it was easy win. First thing you do is use Enchant Artifact on pillars. Then simply wait until you have around 40hp left. At this point you should start to chain your shields/enchant artifact them and use spare :aether to Parallel Universe his Lava Golems, when they have 10+ hp
Post by: furballdn on July 28, 2012, 10:10:37 pm
If oracle told you its Hermes, use this deckEr, yeah. that deck is in the OP (opening post of the thread) as well as his page on the wiki. SoSac also does great against Hermes if you have them.
I got nothing in spins, but it was easy win. First thing you do is use Enchant Artifact on pillars. Then simply wait until you have around 40hp left. At this point you should start to chain your shields/enchant artifact them and use spare :aether to Parallel Universe his Lava Golems, when they have 10+ hp
Post by: Cheesy111 on August 11, 2012, 08:54:51 am
For some reason Splat doesn't work for me at all, so I started looking at other options that could use SoD's and SoSa's with a Light mark. Poison without Arsenics wasn't enough damage, so I got a crazy idea: because you're in danger of getting quanta-denied with Explosions and you need to stay at 30 cards to prevent faildraws as much as possible, what you want is card advantage.
Where is there card advantage in spades? That's right, Aether.
Easiest EM I've ever had. I could toy with him with my fat SoD's.
I ran this with 6 Dragons and one less tower, but I got a 4-tower draw, which won't happen often, and you only actually need 4 Dragons to kill (in the unlikely event he plays Fire Buckler before you play your first Dragon), so here's a hybrid.
Winrate: 2-0
Fat EM's: 2
Fat EMs, easy to play without thinking, great deck. Thank you!
Post by: aerendhil on August 20, 2012, 08:03:55 am
Hello everyone ^o^
I almost killed him with that deck, he was down to 37 life points.
How could I improve it ?
Post by: TribalTrouble on September 02, 2012, 12:16:28 am
Upgrade order for OP (My opinion) :
Enchant Artifact to make the enchant happen faster, be more reliable, since you tend to have enough aether quanta usually. Also, as I discovered with these upped, this creates excess Earth quanta. What can use Earth Quanta? Golems. PU Golems + Earth Quanta = Even stronger Golem (Note: the earth quanta is a BONUS for the deck, don't rely on it too much, for example don't PU a Golem early on with only 10 Attack...)
Dimensional Shields to make it so that you don't die if you don't have exactly 6 or more quanta. Can be a life saver.
PUs for same reason as above, these all make the deck more reliable.
Pillars. I put these last by my preference of, unless I can upgrade ALL the pillars, it really isn't worth it as much as the 2-3 different cards I NEED out.
Post by: rickerd on October 30, 2012, 04:09:02 pm
Post by: yee on December 14, 2012, 08:16:05 pm
Used this deck
Post by: Joseph7 on December 19, 2012, 03:58:46 pm
Post by: Jonny on January 14, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
needs some decks that work well specifcally against Hermes
No Rares of Upgraded cards.
Use Enchant Artifact on your Dimensional Shields. Parallel Universe his Lava Destoyers.
(Start the Shield chain early, otherwise, he'll Fire Lance you to death.)
You need a good draw and a lot of concentration to pull this deck off. I won (2/11, 10 in trainer).
[edit] Did it! Finally!
(http://snag.gy/UUH53.jpg)
I got lucky and Hermes played nothing but deflagration on my pillars for the first couple of rounds. The destroyer was his second creature on the table and I had a handfull of PUs to make them work.
Well, it is good to know that Hermes really can be beaten with an unupped deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 27, 2013, 01:14:18 pm
Saw memimemi's post and decided to mod the deck a bit to this:
I only got 1 quint and 1 lightning bolt in the top half of my deck, so I had a bit of trouble as you can see, but I think it's got potential, since I still got him fairly low even with crap RNG. If I'd played the two SoWs on that ash eater (I assumed I'd draw a 2nd quint someday :p) I could've gotten him down to 10, since he had that ash eater fully stacked on turn 2. (after he got earth quanta)
SPlat used to be the best deck against hermes, but it's dead. I tried poison dials without any success. (0-2) Maybe I'll go back to the dim/PA thing or even the LA thing? Next time I get hermes I might try one of those, or else give this deck a second shot, because I think it would do alright most of the time.
Post by: procproc on April 21, 2013, 07:32:30 pm
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Post by: Avenger on May 01, 2013, 08:48:56 am
@dragonsdemesne: I just gave that deck a shot partially upped and it worked for me. I think it'd be tricky to make it into something that could EM with much regularity, but it's probably good as a staple deck (even unupped and rareless!)Without shards, that deck wouldn't work. Otherwise it is an interesting idea.
Post by: Zso_Zso on May 01, 2013, 02:33:38 pm
Yes its a variant of PoisonDials, but instead of Arsenic uses Morning Glory, because that cannot be destroyed by Explosions. Also low on sundials as they can be blown up but can still help sometimes -- usually use them very early if I lack something to play, don't play them in tight case when blowing up would get you killed. Rely mostly on Sacrifice to stay alive.
Post by: manaboy100 on May 08, 2013, 03:00:57 pm
This is what I use for Hermes and it seems to work well enough:
Yes its a variant of PoisonDials, but instead of Arsenic uses Morning Glory, because that cannot be destroyed by Explosions. Also low on sundials as they can be blown up but can still help sometimes -- usually use them very early if I lack something to play, don't play them in tight case when blowing up would get you killed. Rely mostly on Sacrifice to stay alive.
EM with 172 HP, won a Fire Shield.
This deck completely worked like a charm, but it's not really noob-friendly tho. Might want to put this on the first post, in case you want to add the best working deck :D
Post by: Higurashi on May 09, 2013, 11:26:18 am
Edit: another win yesterday on my alt. This time with 84 HP ^_^
My winrate: 3-1
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 11, 2013, 11:50:39 am
Post by: Higurashi on May 11, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Sometimes he gets a super-rushy start and I lose with all decks because he has so much late-game control. At least by that point I have a chance if I'm packing BW's.
Post by: Higurashi on May 16, 2013, 03:59:44 pm
Spinning on the concept of BW+CC, I made something more suited to combat Hermes. For future tries I'm going to pack 2 AM's, since even though the huge early Destroyer I never managed to nom never got to hit me even once, it could've given me an EM instead of me ending with a dangerous 30-ish HP due to Lances.
As with all Rainbows, get bad RNG with towers and you'll end up dead. In this case because of no BW. Mine went up around 36 HP. Nom extra Otys if no food is around.
Post by: trashduke on June 04, 2013, 11:33:10 am
Post by: TribalTrouble on June 11, 2013, 10:07:16 am
Just got an EM with all 6 SoD used. Nice counter Zso Zso!This is what I use for Hermes and it seems to work well enough:
Yes its a variant of PoisonDials, but instead of Arsenic uses Morning Glory, because that cannot be destroyed by Explosions. Also low on sundials as they can be blown up but can still help sometimes -- usually use them very early if I lack something to play, don't play them in tight case when blowing up would get you killed. Rely mostly on Sacrifice to stay alive.
EM with 172 HP, won a Fire Shield.
This deck completely worked like a charm, but it's not really noob-friendly tho. Might want to put this on the first post, in case you want to add the best working deck :D
Post by: Optimalist on June 17, 2013, 10:46:58 am
Just got an EM with all 6 SoD used. Nice counter Zso Zso!This is what I use for Hermes and it seems to work well enough:
Yes its a variant of PoisonDials, but instead of Arsenic uses Morning Glory, because that cannot be destroyed by Explosions. Also low on sundials as they can be blown up but can still help sometimes -- usually use them very early if I lack something to play, don't play them in tight case when blowing up would get you killed. Rely mostly on Sacrifice to stay alive.
EM with 172 HP, won a Fire Shield.
This deck completely worked like a charm, but it's not really noob-friendly tho. Might want to put this on the first post, in case you want to add the best working deck :D
Post by: jsrjohnny on June 17, 2013, 04:47:26 pm
Post by: bjessee on June 19, 2013, 07:55:07 am
I know he only has 12 Explosions out of 120 cards (maybe he should get SoBs in the next update), but against 7 quanta sources, the odds might not be that extreme that he can match you one for one. I considered whether replacing the Dials with Towers might have done more than delay my agony for two turns, but I also wonder how this affects the deck's win rate when Hermes is not so Detonation-happy.
In conclusion, this deck performed about as well as other Hermes-counters I have tried in the past: not as well as I had hoped.
Post by: Higurashi on June 19, 2013, 08:21:13 am
Post by: Ian007 on June 19, 2013, 12:03:12 pm
Post by: OdinVanguard on August 16, 2013, 05:26:54 pm
I just gave a go with a partly upped version and ALMOST pulled it off. Got him down to 18 health before my 3rd dim shield wore off... couldn't find a fourth in time so his creatures just ate my face after that.
If you run it fully upped I think it may be fairly consistent though. I would have been able to clone his golemn earlier and grow it consistently (since upped EA only takes 1 quanta). That probably would have been enough to do the trick I think.
... For now this seems like the best we have for him.
Post by: Avenger on January 13, 2014, 04:47:59 pm
Spinning on the concept of BW+CC, I made something more suited to combat Hermes. For future tries I'm going to pack 2 AM's, since even though the huge early Destroyer I never managed to nom never got to hit me even once, it could've given me an EM instead of me ending with a dangerous 30-ish HP due to Lances.
As with all Rainbows, get bad RNG with towers and you'll end up dead. In this case because of no BW. Mine went up around 36 HP. Nom extra Otys if no food is around.
I won with this deck on last round with exact damage. The problem is probably the lack of damage (my dragon perished to an early firewall). Anyone with a shard of wisdom should use it.
Post by: Paranoid4ndroid on January 29, 2014, 06:02:43 pm
If oracle told you its Hermes, use this deck
I got nothing in spins, but it was easy win. First thing you do is use Enchant Artifact on pillars. Then simply wait until you have around 40hp left. At this point you should start to chain your shields/enchant artifact them and use spare :aether to Parallel Universe his Lava Golems, when they have 10+ hp
Oracle told me about Hermes and I just tried this deck against him ('cause if I'm not mistaken it's the only one among suggested decks which is totally unupped and I couldn't do otherwise), well I must say that I miserably failed but I think I was quite unlucky. I managed to EA my pillars early, but I drew no more EAs and I was forced to play my DSs without EA in order to avoid death from his pumped golems (but he smashed my DSs pretty fast, and obviously without shields I died pretty fast too). When I had 13 cards left in my deck, 5 remaining EAs were still laying there (that's because I think I was unlucky). Anyway I liked the idea of this deck (although I noticed it is very EA reliant and if you don't draw them you're pretty much done), maybe I'll give it another try.
Post by: ColorlessGreen on January 29, 2014, 06:08:03 pm
The deck is definitely very draw-dependent, but it does work fairly frequently and is definitely worth playing IMO.
Post by: Paranoid4ndroid on January 29, 2014, 07:36:05 pm
FWIW I personally don't really like to EA my pillars unless I'm in a situation where I have a lot of EA's in hand and a low number of pillars (and even then, usually not unless I'm in danger of discarding the EA's). Hermes does spam explosions, but it usually isn't enough spam to really shut down your quanta generation, while having a dim shield exploded is probably game over.You're right, I feared he would have shattered my pillars and that was my fault, I had just one EA in my starting hand and I thought "hey, I'll draw EAs for sure, there are still 5 of them in my deck" but I was so wrong. Anyway thanks for the tips.
The deck is definitely very draw-dependent, but it does work fairly frequently and is definitely worth playing IMO.
Post by: trashduke on March 23, 2014, 02:07:32 pm
Post by: Higurashi on March 23, 2014, 03:06:28 pm
Post by: Grizzox on December 28, 2015, 03:52:33 pm
The extra Arsenics and Towers are there to mitigate multiple Explosions from Hermes. You can add one or two weapons or towers to personal taste. As with all Kamikaze decks, just make sure not to deck yourself out.
Post by: Higurashi on December 25, 2016, 11:27:25 am
As early BW as you can to protect Towers from Explosions (unless you draw lots of Towers). Arsenic once you have a big BW or just several in hand. You'll wanna get about 10 Poison counters at least.