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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg169901#msg169901
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2010, 07:46:05 pm »
I was beating Hermes with my ROl deck! I know it's rubbish, but oh well. If Hermes won't draw his shield you have a shot. My rainbow deck also won only once.

Does this work?


I think this would belong in the "Epic survival against FGs" topic.

The op was looking for a reliable Hermes killer.  ;)

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg169994#msg169994
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2010, 09:24:20 pm »
I say it is pretty reliable. It loses almost always...  :P

But anyway I posted it there for everybody.
Shards aren't overpowered, as long as you have them yourself.

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg180301#msg180301
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 05:10:54 am »
I'm starting to think that Nymphomania variants are actually quite good against hermes. Only problem is the fire buckler, which doesn't come out that often (only 2 copies out of 116 card deck) and can be removed assuming that hermes doesn't PA it immediately.
Below screenshot was taken while using a modified version of arctic nymphomania deck by fallower.
If you can get a purple nymph up quickly, you can easily control the battle from there.


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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg194146#msg194146
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 02:57:27 pm »
I gave this variant a shot and won quite effectively. I removed the Quints because a pumped lava golem with a heavy armor or two would survive some CC so I was looking for it to pull some fire bolts and it managed to draw one upon itself rather than me. Also, the extra towers helped speed up the deck it seems. Figured the mind gates might be amusing to use to draw into some extra hermes-hate. I love using them when I can. ;)

All in all, not bad. No deck is guarateed to beat a FG everytime, but this seemed capable of going toe to toe with Hermes and that's all anyone can really ever ask for.

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg202236#msg202236
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2010, 11:57:06 am »
with no other targets, he blew up both of my starting  towers and thats GG (never drew another one)
like your variant but yeah, similar to mine, 10 is too little (unless you plan on using one EA on tower stack)
i'll be testing fallower's arctic nympho next

he proceed to blow up all of my towers/pendulums....and since nympho deck tend to kill its quanta producing stuff by itself, its GG

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg206599#msg206599
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2010, 07:27:54 am »
another try with kuross variant

PA'd my first mind gate, 4 towers got blown instead

GG when he exploded my last unprotected shield

i'll try upped sundial next in place of mind gates (heavy quanta usage, a big no no)

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg206779#msg206779
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2010, 02:38:11 pm »
Meh, guess the mindgate is a fail. I like to sneak them in wherever I can cause I just love the mechanic, On a sidenote though, I never put mind gate ahead of sheilds in the deck. If I can get a mindgate down and play it, great. otherwise all PAs go to shields unless I have an abundance of PAs and positive momentum towards a win.

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg206791#msg206791
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2010, 03:01:38 pm »
Ironically, pulled Hermes as my FG for the day from the oracle. Tried the Mindgate varient one more time just for kicks and got the win, though it was close. I think I would have been happier to have a sundial in hand at the end since I Yugiho'd the third TU on my final draw. If not for that, I'd have lost. Upside, I was able to use my first mindgate to get a couple of heavy armors which I used to keep my first golem alive. I may have lost if not for that as well so in the end, just not sure. If I were to guess, I'd say the Sundial idea was the safer choice, but mindgating into CC cards can be useful as well. Either way, the core of the deck is solid and works as designed ;)


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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg208904#msg208904
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 03:39:54 am »
Kuross's deck has potential. My attempts to make a more reliable Hermes killer out of Nymphomania decks are proving to be little problematic as Hermes stopped showing up for me for some reason, and Oracle wasn't able to foresee any FGs for like three days in a row now.  ^-^

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Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg208994#msg208994
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2010, 04:57:44 am »
My friend bought USEM at my recommendation and thought it was an FG deck.
He said that it was horrible, he only beat a single FG, and that was Hermes.
I was like  :o :o :o :o Seriously? How did you manage that?

Anyways, OT, for Kuross's deck, maybe add a couple pendulums so you can continue to grow the golems?

Re: Any ideas for a reliable Hermes killer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg224345#msg224345
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2010, 04:33:45 am »
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Ok, now how can we use this to our advantage...
Hermes has:
Creature Control : Rage Potions and Fire Lances, (Fire Shield)
Alternate Damage (Non Creature) : Fire Lances and Farenheight?
Permanent Control: Explosions
Creatures: Ruby Dragons, Brimstone Eaters, Lava Destroyers, Fire Sprectres
Buffs (Soft Creature Protection): Heavy Armour
Permanent Protection: Enchant Artifact.

Ok, now a basic law for Hermes is that nothing is safe, unless packed with Momentum and Quint, or EA.
However, all damage taken is damage kept throughout the whole game. He also has no way of defending himself from alternate damage either.
...Hmm...I'm thinking I'll try a simple light/death: 6xPosion, 6xMiracles, 6x Bonewalls. Doesn't have enough damage potential, but it should be a start. Over 30 cards if possible, that way the poison will have more time to do damage. A couple of arsenics to play between his bouts of explosions.

 

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