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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg471136#msg471136
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2012, 07:45:12 pm »
hmm totally owned him (her?) with this deck too. Should be put in the OP, even if not everyone have 2 purple nymphs.
Agreed. Easy win with half unupped and 1 purple nymph.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg482355#msg482355
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2012, 12:36:58 am »
Since the AM+TU strategy usually fails for me, I decided to get more defence. I've never had trouble with offence, so I'ma post this for myself and others who have the Nymphs to use.

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And even despite this, you can easily get low on HP before winning. Can't help but feel there's a more reliable method.. I'll have to experiment later.
I thought it looked great, but opening hand with 2 nymphs, 4 TU and a quint means not a lot of quanta support.  Couple that Hecate stealing 2-3 pendula in the opening turns and I never stood a chance. I AM'd a vampired Doll before I could TU just for the life-steal but she Raged it out of existence.  I realize there is incredible bad luck involved when I can't get more than 4 pendula/towers in the opening 4 turns which made the experience all the more cringe-worthy.  Oh well.
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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg494790#msg494790
« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2012, 06:36:23 am »
Does the deck still work with the AI scripting changes? Liquid antimatter hardly seems to work now.
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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg498895#msg498895
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2012, 08:41:27 pm »
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Hecate doesn't rage potion to kill her antimattered dolls, which is nice.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg524091#msg524091
« Reply #76 on: July 21, 2012, 09:44:01 pm »
The heck? I remember when the counter deck worked perfectly, but now, even with a few ups, it seems I lose every time to Hecate. She just killed me in 5 turns even after I got off an antimatter and 2 TUs.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg525289#msg525289
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2012, 09:51:17 am »
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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg527041#msg527041
« Reply #78 on: July 29, 2012, 07:07:17 am »
Well, finally beat Hecate, though that might be due to my phase dragon pet. I really can't tell if Hecate is smart or stupid. She doesn't stack her rage pots on one voodoo, spreading them out among her voodoos, which make antimattering harder, but she also applies liquid shadow onto extremely negative attack voodoos on her own side.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg1008679#msg1008679
« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2012, 01:04:38 pm »
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I ran the above deck to see how it would do.  It would have worked except that Hecate didn't get any rage potions until the last turn. (and no cards in hand so I know he wasn't holding back, not that the AI would have likely figured that out)  He had something like 8 dolls out, a bunch of which had LS, and he had his vampire dagger out, so I was taking damage, but there was nothing to AM all game with my three quinted nymphs.  If you haven't got that many nymphs, just replace nymphs/quints with AMs and TUs and towers.  The deck -should- win most games; like I say, if there'd been even one early potted doll for me to AM, I would almost certainly have won, and I'm trying this deck the next time I get hecate.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg1009540#msg1009540
« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2012, 07:29:12 am »
Well, got hecate again tonight :p  Here's the result with the above deck:



I'm not sure that I've got the quanta balance right; I think it probably needs more towers and less pends, but I just managed to recover in time from the initial rush, mostly thanks to TUing a vampiric doll that healed me when I needed it.  The nymphs being that one turn slower than a simple AM spell can sometimes backfire, and it almost did here.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg1016173#msg1016173
« Reply #81 on: November 17, 2012, 08:14:06 am »
I was about to post "i have yet to win using the deck in the OP" when suddenly, i win the game (though only narrowly)
And i got Voodoo, LS, and Ragepot.
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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg1018050#msg1018050
« Reply #82 on: November 27, 2012, 03:00:17 pm »
I've tryed this (mostly upped) deck :
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Just used a fully upped version of this deck against Hecate. Worked for me.
Worked well for me too despite an awful draw.  Hecate uses LS on my scorps... which is fine by me cuz I've already deployed poison and I can use the healing.  He also used an LS on his -4/3 doll.  Lol.

AM and RT are the two best cc options against Hecate.  And dune scorps are ideal against an opponent that has all super cheap cards.  Nice work, macgawel.

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Re: Oracle : Hecate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21951.msg1024338#msg1024338
« Reply #83 on: December 21, 2012, 05:47:44 pm »
I've tryed this (mostly upped) deck :
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I would like to share a success story with a fully upped version of this.
It appears that the AI prefers to waste its Liquid Shadow on your Dune Scorpions instead of attempting to kill off its -20/3 Voodoo Doll.

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