Newbs Help, Unupgraded Half Blood Farming Decks.

[Luminous]

Nice work here,again. For the vulture deck,i should say this,I tried it in the trainer 3 times. I always rushed hard. Titanium shields can't keep opponent much. I'd say skull-shield would be better. Less cost,friendly to mark and can counter rushes. And,as I said,I always lost before getting the cards needed. I think,as many otk decks,this needs sundial with a skull shield but I am not sure which card to replace it. This must be said.

[frimax]

Yeah, deck number 5 is a mystery man, it takes me sooo long every time I want to improve it, and it can't be tested in Xeno simulator, which
slows things even more, there is only one way and is try and fail, thing is I made a full upgraded version of it, works well, and then from that one,
I took the non-upgraded version, I have the manual statistics against FG somewhere, let me make some modifications and see if I can get the
ratio to half-bloods, higher than 50%, why don't you test my other decks, they work pretty well, and some of them don't need many rares.

Cheers mate.

[Luminous]

Yeah, deck number 5 is a mystery man, it takes me sooo long every time I want to improve it, and it can't be tested in Xeno simulator, which
slows things even more, there is only one way and is try and fail, thing is I made a full upgraded version of it, works well, and then from that one,
I took the non-upgraded version, I have the manual statistics against FG somewhere, let me make some modifications and see if I can get the
ratio to half-bloods, higher than 50%, why don't you test my other decks, they work pretty well, and some of them don't need many rares.

Cheers mate.

Okay,it sure is mystery. By the way, 50th post!

[Mental Midget]

Hello there folks im kinda new at this game but i spend alot of time on the forum reading, spent about 1000 electum on the ffq deck. but the AI4 is to smart they kill my rustlers b4 anything else.. and its very slow and got no way to handle with skullshield or Thorn carapace.. get my ass handed on a plate before im even close to get my stuff up, within that time AI already has most of their creatures out and with that deck so i would not recommend that deck, lost about 10 games in a row and it was not good for either my small amount of electum or my score

Edit: it was the remade version tho didnt see the original one. might look good on paper but in action its shait against ai4 :<

[Mental Midget]

Just tried Deck 4 aswell for 18 games its an OK deck but, bad hands or unlucky draws is very vital to get that deck started so i lost more than i won due to those unlucky rounds. and if the creatures gets to heavy on the opponents side your vamp regen will not be able to keep up properly.

its pretty hard to rely on a 4 card combo wich does not do about 12 dmg/round

[Luminous]

Just tried Deck 4 aswell for 18 games its an OK deck but, bad hands or unlucky draws is very vital to get that deck started so i lost more than i won due to those unlucky rounds. and if the creatures gets to heavy on the opponents side your vamp regen will not be able to keep up properly.

its pretty hard to rely on a 4 card combo wich does not do about 12 dmg/round

Everything depends on draw.

[frimax]

Try deck 1 for a while, I improved a little bit is non-upgraded, duo, very easy to build, it gives you at least 70% win rate, sometimes more.
and if you want, Deck 2, it's really good because its a rush, but you MUST save your steals for the right time, the good thing about a rush is,
either you win fast, or die fast, so you can farm like crazy 

Good luck have fun, if you can when you get some light rares try Deck 6, it's really good and it gets close to 80% win rate.
=)

I'm trying to make a RoL, mono light, hope deck, it's fun, but arena and HB, have so much Creature Control (CC), that it makes me wanna shard them all to hell. 

[Mental Midget]

Only problem with the Deck 6 is that they contain the 2 most rare-rares ive never gotten morningstar or even seen the miracle once in the rolls :| but ill sure give deck 1 a try,
i currently use http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36282.0.html it works soso but since u are limited to CC its tough to know wich creatures are worth getting rid of in case he pulls out another dangerous one :|

[Mental Midget]

Ok i tried the Deck 1 for 12 games now and i won 4 of those
most reasons why i lost was because (in no specific order):

- earthquake - delayed your deck enormously to be able to stay efficient on the damage output.
- Skullshield - well pretty much made my indestructable damage delaers into to indestructable worthlessness
- arsenic or any poison - not much do to there
- Deflag/steal/butterflyeffect - if they ruin one of my shields its pretty much a loss

the lack of phaseshields makes u very vurnable to most decks since its only for limited time and most from the above is very hard to compete against except for luck.


by trying some of these decks now ive noticed that speed is the most vital key to victory in the AI4, the longer you wait the harder you die. to be able to compete with them AI4s u need to do alot of early damage so u can bring them down to 100 hp within 6-8 turns after that ur chances are slightly improved. i have another deck that looks very promising i just need some more testing with it so i can be sure not just to trust the game simulator to much

Edit: ide suggest going full aether instead http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3154.0.html of aether death unless u remake it to a more 50/50 deck with death aether with some pendulums otherwise the mark feels kinda wasted with only 4 poisons in it.
the essetial halfblood farmer gots higher win chance than the aether/poison deck

[Mental Midget]

Ok now ive tested this deck for a bit (forgot to post the other post that way it might look wierd me trying to test this deck out in just a couple of seconds )

anyways here it is

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when i first started to play this game i rly started to fancy entropy cuz of its way to morph creatures and stuff. but then i was stuck on ai3 farming so switched out some cards and it turned out to be pretty effective.

it has about 50-60% winchance and very good sustain and even possible EMs

Tips:
- Always save your Maxwells on ur hand until its rly needed unless u play against another Entropy or Death deck it will most likely be killed by their maxwells so make sure to put it out b4 they do, or it will be plagued and die from the death deck.. almost forgot about otyughs aswell.. bleh..
- Disipation shield is a rly nice lifesaving tool dont waste it and make sure u got a nice amount of stacked quanta b4 playing it so it wount interrupt u from casting other creatures/antimatter the next turn. best tool to reach an EM victory 1 is enough in my opinion since u wount use it frequently
- Antimatter needs to be well placed so dont place em on creatures with lower than 4 damage to make it effective, optimal placeing would be on a 10/x creature like dragons or other high creatures.

Pros:
- Pretty good sustain with anti-matter so ur able to last more than 10 turns without dying (if the game takes that long)
- Antimatter makes the AI target his own creatures with CC instead of yours, if he does target ur creatures with rewind etc.. well thanks for the life
- easy to handle quantadenial decks thats why i have abominations in the deck instead of more dragons
- heavy hitting and decent speed.
- Possible to EM

Cons:
- Procasination shield/turtleshield is pretty annoying it slows down the deck since this deck relys on attacks only without momentum
- When AI uses rewind/rod of divinity on his own creatures if antimattered its pretty much a waste of a good antimatter, always predict the targets of antimatter (Attackdmg and quantacost)
- skullshield is also one of my nemesis, its passable though it can be rly annoying just make sure to antimatter them bonedragons and it will be fine (hopefully)

This is what i reached the best in the game simulator for 20 games but thats mostly wishthinking

Player
Wins: 18
Winrate: 90 %
Average TTW: 12.166666666666666
EMs: 3
EM rate: 16.666666666666668 %

Computer
Wins: 2
Winrate: 10 %
Average TTW: 16
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

[frimax]

This is the actual stats with the antimatter deck you posted,

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Player
Wins: 57
Winrate: 57 %
Average TTW: 13.228070175438596
EMs: 17
EM rate: 29.82456140350877 %

Computer
Wins: 43
Winrate: 43 %
Average TTW: 13.255813953488373
EMs: 1
EM rate: 2.3255813953488373 %

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5up 5up 5up 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61s 61s 61s 61s 61t 61t 61t 61t 61v 61v 61v 61v 7tb 8pt

Player
Wins: 68 <-- AVERAGE, sometimes is higher.
Winrate: 68 %
Average TTW: 15.176470588235293
EMs: 19
EM rate: 27.941176470588236 %

Computer
Wins: 32
Winrate: 32 %
Average TTW: 14.1875
EMs: 1
EM rate: 3.125 %

is a variant of the first deck with Perma Controls(PC), I used to use, for newbies Aether is the best, go take a look at bronze, silver and half of gold, all of them use aether because is stable, the deck I just posted is one of the highest win/rates I have.
If you have shards or at least 8 quantum towers and 6 supernovas I can give you better ones.

GL.

[Mental Midget]

This is the actual stats with the antimatter deck you posted,

Player
Wins: 57
Winrate: 57 %
Average TTW: 13.228070175438596
EMs: 17
EM rate: 29.82456140350877 %

Computer
Wins: 43
Winrate: 43 %
Average TTW: 13.255813953488373
EMs: 1
EM rate: 2.3255813953488373 %

yea i know i got those 90% of 20 games and that was about 10 clicks to get that, as i said wishthinking

Aether/darkness deck looks pretty solid tho i think it could be pretty usefull surely have to test it out