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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1294177#msg1294177
« Reply #84 on: October 16, 2019, 12:31:52 pm »
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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1294178#msg1294178
« Reply #85 on: October 16, 2019, 12:34:43 pm »
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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1294181#msg1294181
« Reply #86 on: October 16, 2019, 03:31:07 pm »
Why is that your impression?
Was just poking fun at you :silly:
"Kaempfer and dragtom got to the correct solution but not with the intended method."

It's an old meme where teachers wouldn't give credit if you didn't do it their way. Sadly, some teachers actually do that.

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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1304056#msg1304056
« Reply #87 on: November 28, 2020, 07:00:57 pm »
I got stuck in a puzzle of Skyscrapers, so I decided to post it here.

Spoiler for How To Play:
The given 7x7 grid is full of skyscrapers. The numbers in the grid indicate the heights of the skyscrapers. The numbers outside the grid indicate how many skyscrapers are visible when looking inside from that direction. (Taller skyscrapers hide all smaller skyscrapers behind it.) All cells have skyscrapers in them. A number cannot repeat in the same row/column. Only numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 can be used.

This is as far as I got:



Question: Which cell can be filled with a number next, and why?

I am not asking for the whole grid's solution, because I could get it by bifurcation - which is the worst possible way to solve a puzzle. But after answering the question, feel free to solve the puzzle and post your solution. :)
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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1304059#msg1304059
« Reply #88 on: November 28, 2020, 09:28:17 pm »
What is the starting position?
edit: since you said thats 'as far as you got'

Does a scraper hide equal-height scrapers behind it? derp, this isn't allowed

I'm using A1 as bottom left square, and G1 bottom right.
Spoiler for cells found (ordered, but without saying how):
B6
F3
E2
F5
E5
A5
E4
F6
G7
E6
The rest of the puzzle collapses quickly
Spoiler for findings so far:
A4 == (1,2,3); B4 == (1,2,3,5)
if B4 == 3 => A4 == (1, 2), both of which cause A4, B4, C4, and D4 to be visible from the left.
=> B4 == (1,2,5)

B6 == (1,2,3);
B3 == (1,2);
B2 == (1,5);
B6 is only cell in B that can be 3.
B6 == 3.

F7 == (1,2,3);
F6 == (1,2);
F5 == (2,3,4);
F4 == (1,2,3,5,6);
F3 == (1,2,6);
F2 == (1,4,5);
In F, the '6' is in F3 or F4.
F2 is not visible from the top.
there are only 2 squares in F not visible.

if F3 == (1,2), F3 is not visible from the top;
also, (F3, F6) == (1,2) => F7 == 3 => F6 is not visible from the top.
This'd give 3 non-visible cells; thus, F3 != (1,2)
F3 == 6.

(E3, E6) == (1,2);
E2 == (1,4), but 1 is already used.
E2 == 4.

F5 is the only cell in F that can be '4'.
F5 == 4.

E5 = (1,2,3), but (E3, E6) == (1,2);
E5 == 3.

A5 == 2.

E4 = (1,2,6), but (E3, E6) == (1,2);
E4 == 6.

F2 == (1, 5);
F4 == (1,2,3,5);
if F4 == 5 => F2 == 1 => F6 = 2;
if F4 == (1,2,3), then F4 is not visible because of F5 => F6 must be visible => F6 = 2;
F6 == 2.

G7 is the only cell in the 7-row that can be 2.
G7 == 2.

E6 == 1.

E3 == 2.

B3 == 1.

B2 == 5.

F2 == 1.

F4 is the only cell in F that can be 5.
F4 == 5.

F7 == 3.

A7 == 1.

A4 == 3.

B4 == 2.

G4 == 1.
thats every cell.
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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1304060#msg1304060
« Reply #89 on: November 28, 2020, 10:35:10 pm »
Aha, puzzles! I've seen this puzzle a few times (as Towers), although have never played anything larger than a 6x6 board.

Some years ago I found a collection of puzzles when looking for infinite puzzles: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/
If you haven't seen Simon Tatham's puzzles, you should check it. Puzzles are generated and customizable, so there's no limits to how much you can play. There's some classics in there as well.
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Re: Guilds Puzzle League! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59795.msg1304064#msg1304064
« Reply #90 on: November 29, 2020, 02:00:09 am »
What is the starting position?
edit: since you said thats 'as far as you got'
The empty board looked like this:

Spoiler for Hidden:

The solution you found is quite clever. I completely missed that, good job. :)



Aha, puzzles! I've seen this puzzle a few times (as Towers), although have never played anything larger than a 6x6 board.

Some years ago I found a collection of puzzles when looking for infinite puzzles: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/
If you haven't seen Simon Tatham's puzzles, you should check it. Puzzles are generated and customizable, so there's no limits to how much you can play. There's some classics in there as well.
That's a vast collection of puzzles there. Though it seems the puzzles have been renamed, except maybe Tents. (Sudoku is called Solo, which I find funny.)
Good stuff! I'm already testing something I haven't tried in ages. :)
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