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umm way too complicated much? how about an egg that has a 25% chance each turn of hatching into a dragon of your mark? or has a cost to hatch into a dragon of your mark?I got yet another idea for solving the problems SnoWeb and Hyroen pointed out (inhomogeneous costs with different spells, and "too easy way" to get Dragon on turn 1):
Good ideas, but they aren't exactly in a same page with the original idea I'm trying to accomplish here: I want to introduce a mechanism that makes some situational cards more usable, when they traditionally have had the potentiality of becoming "dead cards in hand". For example Rage Potion is a great boost/creature control. But if you use mono-deck without Lava G.s, that card becomes only creature control. This new "Dragon Egg mechanism" would now give new alternative use for that card.
or hatches into a dragon of your mark whenever targeted with a spell? or even when targeted with an effect of any kind turns into a dragon of that element?
That is pretty close what I've tried to do here. The only difference is that I came to a conclusion that if damage cards (Lightning, Rain of Fire, etc) would also give you "free Dragon" it would be OP; and like discussed earlier that would make Pandemonium combo way too powerful.
the version you have here would never be implemented
Yes, you're probably right. I've also seen the cards that have made to the game - Phoenix & Voodoo Doll. The original ideas for those cards weren't actually that close to the final cards, so I'm sure that this idea would also be adjusted and tweaked a lot if it ever goes that far. For now I'm just happy that this idea of mine has been noticed by some forum members, and hopefully I'm able to get this to Crucible soon. After that we'll see what happens.
this can be sum serious OP i think.............Pandemonium
this + fractal + pandemonium............
idk what effects pandemonium has but yea...
pretty sure it has reverse time at least........... you can summon hoards of different dragons easily....
I love this idea. I thought about the effects you still haven't been able to factor in yet, and I might have some suggestions.Hmmm... don't know about those. I personally like the option "that does nothing to the egg" better. But I'm ready to change my mind if you or someone else gives good reasoning for changes.
Web: Turns into a mummy (strange, but it was really the only thing that fit).
Angel: This is pretty similar to Holy Light so I'd say Light Dragon
Lobo/mindflayer: Maybe a fate egg for humor?
Well if the opponent kills it, doesn't it still make a dragon?No, dead Eggs are just dead. No free dragons from those.
okay this deck pretty good. Not as good as CCYB since divine glory and seism are absolutely impossible. I did some change +1 blue nymph, +1 quint +1mingate +1QT +1permafrost.I've beaten Seism with this. You need some luck to get Protect on Towers, but if you do get that, you should be just fine.
My point was that even if adding 4x SoG to Hope/RoL deck makes it a bit slower - average game takes 4,5 min instead of 4 min - the boost for win% makes it really worth it, for me at least. I think that with the little slower version you'd actually win more electrum/hour due to 2 facts: 1) more HP when you win means more electrum; 2) better win% means more wins and less electrum lost on skipping. But these things are just our opinions and preferences on different styles, I think neither one of us has it 100% correct here. Only one thing is certain - this topic is great and I thank you Seravy for starting it.QuoteBack in the 1.24's I played total of 400 games with Hope-RoL getting ~50% wins.Now repeat those 400 games with my version and say it again. You probably didn't notice but this version has NO SoG in the deck, so the chance to win against Morte, scorpio, and many others is significantly lower. This version probably gets around 40% at most if you play every god including the ones that should be skipped.
I know that Rol/Hope can beat every god except octane with a different deck build, but that's not the point of farming false gods. If you want the best possible electrum/hour, you MUST skip the gods listed. There is no reason to play against gods that give you a less than 50% win rate if you are going for the electrum, and this is especially true if that'd mean adding more cards to the deck that further slows it down (Shard of Gratitude) to actually get that near 50% win rate.
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With this card and nova, summoning a dragon in the first turn has never been easier.Totally true, but Nova+This Card+Something to target This Card = 3 card combo. Not that it would be hard combo to do, but it still takes 3 cards to get 1 creature. Do you think it would be OP? Do you have suggestions how to make it less powerful?
I like the Idea but I have some remarks/questions/suggestions:
- The cost are really inhomogeneous from one dragon to the other (antimatter cost 6and momentum 1
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Life just isn't always fair, deal with it.I don't think that's really a problem since if you have those "better" high-cost cards you can use em the way they are meant to be used. But if we want to make this fair for everyone, some quanta-drain could be added to the effect - ability drains 5-[the cost of spell] quanta etc. Keep suggestions coming, if you have any other idea for it.
- Owl eyes ability is not a spell but an arrow for me it does not fit IMO.
The ability is called "sniper" (who are pretty accurate where they aim), so that made me think it could work. Rethinking it made me ask for better suggestions for gettingDragon.
- What aboutnymph tears,
twin universe,
luciferin,
drainlife,
Most of them added. Pandemonium generates copies of different abilities that are already mentioned. Nymph tears can't target creatures.
- what about giving the egg an ability: for 3 quanta turns a pillar into the corresponding dragon?
- what about creating a specific evolve spell from each element?
Interesting ideas. Why don't you take the credit for them and post those in new topic(s).
good luck
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Mark isn't the best way to go into battle with Seism. 
Isn't Incarnate's :poison only powered by his mark? o.oIncarnate - Mark 3x
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than . Didn't realize that before. 
But anyway, for me the cards and the ability of Bloodsucker (needs ) are "more defining" for Incarnate than the ones from .
Change it. It should deal 2 damage to every Airborne creature and 1 damage to all else.I voted that. I also like the idea of "fry the wings of airborne creatures" by harry 959, but I'd change that just a little bit. I think it shouldn't automatically take airborne ability away, but instead there could be a certain chance for that to happen on each creature - maybe 50%, or some another number.
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