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Buff This Card! / Re: Colossal Dragon | Massive Dragon
« on: July 28, 2010, 06:34:39 am »
Perhaps there could be a new passive that would only be available to a few special cards.  They are so massive that they warp time and space, so Reverse Time, and possibly Antimatter can not be used on them...

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Osiris / Re: Oracle : Osiris
« on: July 28, 2010, 06:16:15 am »
I'm pretty sure that doesnt matter, as when they have 1 card left they dont instantly lose. As long as they have 1 card to draw each turn (the rewinded card) they dont count as decking out. They only draw 2 if they are able to, it isnt mandatory.
I think that is the case with AI5, but AI6 has to draw 2 unless their hand is full.

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Religion / Re: The First Cause Argument
« on: July 27, 2010, 06:13:31 pm »
Either way there must be an exception to the normal rules by which the universe runs, merely in one case no attempt is made to explain it and a gaping hole is left in the logic of the universe.
I do know that how the universe runs as we perceive it is very different than how it works, say on the atomic scale.  When the universe began, so did mass, time, force, and everything else.  So the usual is not necessary.  I am quite sure science won't have it figured out before I die so I'm fine with a gaping hole.

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Religion / Re: Responses to a few common arguments
« on: July 27, 2010, 05:31:03 pm »
Replying to discussion of Invisible Pink Unicorn 

Yes, it is possible for the majority of the human race to be wrong, but it is somewhat more difficult for them to be wrong about whether or not they experienced something.

It would be somewhat more difficult to maintain faith without ever experiencing the divine, but I would argue it's still possible to rationally come to the conclusion God exists without direct evidence.

I offer the following analogy:
My wife has a friend named Julia. I have never met Julia, but I have no doubt that she exists. If I ask different people about her I will get different responses, including "who?" from people who haven't heard of her. It is unlikely that any two people who have met Julia would give exactly the same account. It is always possible that I will meet Julia at some point in the future, but there is no way to guarantee that I will. Even if I knocked on her door, she might not be home.

However, if I do meet Julia, there can only be 2 possible truths to the situation 1) Julia is real 2) I'm schizophrenic. Given that I can also conclude that if I haven't met her but my wife says she has that either 1) Julia is real 2) my wife is crazy or 3) my wife is lying to me.

Considering the possibility that someone is crazy is generally not useful unless there is substantial supporting evidence, outside of the initial claim. The possibility of a liar is is quite possible in the case of an individual, but if you have a large population that all says the same thing this possibility becomes much more remote, almost to the point of non-existence.
Whether an individual exists, or a certain trivia question is true is, of course, wholly different than the "big questions".  The truth of Julia's existence is not going to weigh in on how you should act (morals) or how you conceive of the universe working.  If it's your wife's imaginary friend and you find out, of course, you would change how you would act with your wife and be emotionally shocked, but if your local grocery clerk talked about imaginary Julia you may just humor her so you can be on your way.  Whether or not Liverpool is the capitol of the UK will have no bearing on how I live my life, just on where I may get my facts from.

Religion on the other hand dictates one's morals and one's perspective on life.  Accepting religious explanations at face value will narrow one's understanding of reality and keep an individual under the control of religious leaders.

Of course, this may not apply to you or anyone reading.  A lot of people draw a line between religion and spirituality and don't base their beliefs on tradition or culture.

My point is teaching someone (especially a child) that an invisible pink unicorn exists because the vast majority of society has the same beliefs is not the right thing to do.  The "big questions" deserve more critical thought.

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Thus I am left with 2 possibilities concerning God 1) God exists, at least in some form or 2) half the human race has the same mental illness. Number 2 is actually possible, though  not very reassuring, generally I fall back on other arguments when discussing this possibility.
Whether its comforting or not, the human race has had a series of mental illnesses-war, slavery, tyrannical governments, genocide, child abuse, addiction, starvation, etc.  Luckily, with technology, reason, and discourse most of us don't have to live with those illnesses.  I consider all those disasters as resulting from delusions, so I don't consider it a far stretch for humanity to still be lost in other mental traps, myself not excluded.

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Humor / Re: best deck EVER
« on: July 27, 2010, 04:39:11 pm »
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Religion / Re: The First Cause Argument
« on: July 27, 2010, 03:33:43 pm »
Now consider the beginning of the universe. There was no "before" to fall back on. Therefore the only thing that could have caused the universe is something that can violate causality.
This may be where semantics rears its head.

I would say the universe is a subset of "existence".  There is speculation that there could be multiple universes and there are beliefs in powers, beings, forces, etc., outside or prior to the universe.  All of these things would still be in the realm of existence.

If there was nothing at all, there would always be nothing.  Existence is what there is and there is no way to start that without having something in the first place.  So, I would say what exists is without reason.

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General Discussion / Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Air
« on: July 27, 2010, 03:21:45 pm »
I choose Shockwave. It is the only card in the game that can kill an opponents creature no matter how high it's health is. Sure it has to be combined with another element for it to work, but with 4 damage at minimum, it can take out half the creatures in the game instantly anyways without it. I find it a great card to use, especially in a deck with Arctic Squids :)
You forgot Mutation's 10%.   :P

I chose Shockwave, too.  Mainly because of the aesthetic of shattering a frozen creature and the "thwump" noise it makes.

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Religion / Re: Responses to a few common arguments
« on: July 27, 2010, 03:15:51 pm »
I would say it isn't lying if the parents genuinely believe what they're teaching their kids. Otherwise you get into all kinds of "how can I teach someone things I don't know myself" situations.
Perhaps I was delving a little too much into the analogy.  If I were presented with such a study I would think I was being set up because I never heard of an actual Pink Unicorn religion.

But that portion of the rebuttal is not necessary.  I think you would agree that it doesn't matter how many people believe in something--that belief does not make something true or false.

You say in response to the general "invisible pink unicorn" argument that you have directly experienced something that has given you faith in whatever belief you have.  For someone who has never had such an experience, would you say that they could never rationally hold the same beliefs?

Thank you for your response.

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Religion / Re: Responses to a few common arguments
« on: July 27, 2010, 12:14:01 pm »
You take a random sample of 100 people from around the globe. They aren't given a chance to speak to each other before speaking to you, and each of them is given a lie detector test, so your 90% certain that they, at least, believe what they're telling you.

Out of that 100 people:
60 tell you there's an invisible pink unicorn following you
10 say it's an invisible purple unicorn
10 say it's an invisible pink pegasus
1 says it's an invisible blue rhinocerous
10 say they aren't sure if there's an invisible quadruped following you or not
9 say there is no invisible quadruped

Maybe this would convince me to go buy the unicorn a saddle, but it certainly isn't a strong argument against invisible unicorns.

Those figures roughly follow statistics taken from the pew test and a few other sources about worldwide belief in God. It's admittedly very difficult to find trustworthy data on this subject, and most sources disagree at least a little.

And as Artois points out here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6523.0.html there are some rather remarkable similarities between many religions (hence unicorn vs. pegasus and not unicorn vs. salamander or goldfish). The resurrection motif is just one of many examples.

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If there's a specific argument you would like me to look at or if you would like to respond to one of my responses, please post away.
Are you serious about buying the saddle?

What that study would tell me is that 81% of people have been lied to as part of their upbringing and have never bothered to face reality or were too scared to.

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Religion / Re: The First Cause Argument
« on: July 27, 2010, 11:39:45 am »
I don't know if I understand what is being said, so I'll just start with the first part I have trouble with:

"Nothing just is without a reason why it is."

I have to disagree with this.  Existence just is.

For there to be a reason, the reason has to exist, and therefore the reason is part of existence and thus can not be the cause of existence.

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Sports / Re: YOUR favorite sports team?
« on: July 27, 2010, 07:57:06 am »


Almost that time of the year again.  My NFL team sucks, too, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Air
« on: July 27, 2010, 07:32:30 am »
@BloodShadow

Good work, but I don't think you should include Photon as synergy unless you include all non-skilled creatures.

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