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Farming Studies and Statistics / Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths
« on: June 23, 2011, 08:01:42 pm »
Still need someone to volunteer to run preliminary data on Flay 'EM.
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General Discussion / Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths
« on: June 23, 2011, 08:01:42 pm »
Still need someone to volunteer to run preliminary data on Flay 'EM.
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Rainbow Decks / Re: One-Winged Angel [PVP 2] [Speedbow]
« on: June 23, 2011, 07:22:33 pm »
Looks just like the PvP version of TADAbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22518.msg304907#msg304907). I saw it helped you in your Budo victory. Grats!
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Rainbow Decks / Speeding up the TADABow - Stats Reported
« on: June 23, 2011, 04:49:15 pm »
After brainstorming ideas for speeding this deck up and suggestions from other players, I wanted to publish the data I have gathered thus far. After seeing how unupped rainbows worked with the antabow, I assumed I could improve the efficiency of TADAbow by replacing a QT in most of my variant testing. Automulligan seems to help this choice out quite a bit as well. Just as a general rule of thumb, if a deck variant is not within 200 score/hr after 50 games, 100 score/hr after 100 games, and 50 score/hr after 150 games, I give up on it.
As you can see, the removal of a pillar makes it more difficult to find quanta to heal up for an EM. Initially, I had expected an additional pegasus to be the new champion because it is more stout and hits hard. The good news is I found a more efficient variant, the bad news is, the results are so close, my guess is 500 games are probably required for each of the top 3 or 4 before anything conclusive is decided. If anyone else who loves this deck + stats wants to help out, I would be much obliged. I will probably get around to it after getting the FG Study a bit more organized, and before T500 comes out so I can reap the rewards of the score farming. If anyone has additional variant suggestions, I can test those as well. I am still considering testing a fate egg and trying to work in a forest spectre somehow. For now, I will replace the OP version with the Wyrm variant, but not update the elder by elder stats because those are a pain to calculate. I have shared the excel file below for anyone who is actually interested in the raw data.
Shared file: https://rapidshare.com/files/1753035091/TADAbow_Testing.xlsx
| Variant | TSE | Avg. TTW | Games | Win % | EM % |
| -1 QT, +1 Elite Wyrm | 1513.085 | 7.43216 | 200 | 99.5% | 83% |
| TADABow (original) | 1507.522 | 7.585 | 200 | 100% | 85% |
| -1 QT, +1 Elite Pegasus | 1479.639 | 7.43 | 200 | 100% | 78% |
| -1 QT, +1 Hourglass | 1465.789 | 7.47739 | 200 | 99.5% | 81.5% |
| -1 QT, +1 Flesh Recluse | 1439.748 | 7.33562 | 150 | 97.333% | 79.333% |
| -1 QT, -1 Phase, -1 LD, +1 Flesh, +2 MP | 1427.379 | 7.76871 | 150 | 98% | 79.333% |
| -1 QT, +1 Discord | 1417.621 | 7.63265 | 100 | 98% | 78% |
| -1 QT, -1 BH, +1 Peggy, +1 Flesh | 1384.004 | 7.30208 | 100 | 96% | 77% |
| -1 QT, -1 Crawler, +1 AW, +1 Discord | 1382.415 | 7.70408 | 100 | 98% | 77% |
| -1 QT, +1 UG | 1316.6 | 7.47423 | 100 | 97% | 74% |
| -1 QT, -1 Grabbie, -1 Crawler, +1 Wyrm, +2 CP | 1273.141 | 7.7551 | 50 | 98% | 66% |
Shared file: https://rapidshare.com/files/1753035091/TADAbow_Testing.xlsx
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Rainbow Decks / Re: Little Miss Fire [t50][pvp2]
« on: June 23, 2011, 02:40:27 am »I would change de Rage pot for another epi, as it's super efective and Rage porion leaves you vulnerable to CC. Will try it tomorrow and see results! Btw,, Quadruple Machinegun seems less bad - draw having. sorry for my bad english, I'm sleepy :pAs opposed to quadruple machine gun, which is more of a dump everything as it comes and win deck, this deck is more wait.... buff a bunch at once... win. There are often games with this deck where you draw and adrenaline and don't have the quanta to support playing it.
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Grid - Battle Results / Re: Round 6 Results
« on: June 22, 2011, 03:49:03 pm »Momentum – J4 is not a ninja cell.Hmm. I must have miscalculated. I thought I had 4 ninjas and 3 targeted. I might be getting a few less relics than hoped. I am sure Gyro will figure it out and allocate accordingly. This is all starting to get a little confusing. Confusing in a good way though.
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Grid - Battle Results / Re: Round 6 Results
« on: June 22, 2011, 05:17:48 am »
Oh right, my bad. Fixed.
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Grid - Battle Results / Re: Round 6 Results
« on: June 22, 2011, 01:41:26 am »
kirchj33 - 3
truddy02 - 2
Clean games, no desyncs.
Games 1 & 2: WIN, LOSS
Games 3 & 4: WIN, LOSS
Game 5: WIN
I noticed truddy wasn't always quinting fire spirits as soon as they were played & I wasn't having quanta to play sancs & they didn't matter much. Had to rush early game before fog shield, sancs against growers matter little. So I snuck a couple of shockwaves back in but they didn't matter. Managed to get a faster rush going than truddy even with both of us playing early fog shields. Won in another close one.
Good games truddy, all very close. I appreciate how easy you were to connect with for games & good luck in the future.
Pegasus – L7 (Ninja) - Target
Fog Shield – C9
Shockwave – G10
Sanctuary – H5
Blessing – E6
Momentum – J4 (Ninja) - Target
Relic x 3 – D3
Relic x 2 – K8
Relic – A11
Relic – B2
Black Hole – F1 (Ninja) – Target
Titanium Shield – I12 (Ninja)
Relics spent: 3
truddy02 - 2
Clean games, no desyncs.
Games 1 & 2: WIN, LOSS
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5mq 5og 5og 5on 5on 5on 5on 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7la 7la 7laWon the first with shockwaves stifling his early damage, then he created a nice counter. I didn't have much choice with my card selections but to play similar variants the whole way through. I was really expecting devs or phoenixes across the board this round.Games 3 & 4: WIN, LOSS
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5og 5og 7jo 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7la 7laI realized I wasn't getting a chance to use shockwaves so I switched to sancs but game 3 my rush went off too fast to play them, game 4 I had to keep pushing damage to win on a game where he hit through my haxx shield and I missed a bunch at the end on his.Game 5: WIN
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lm 5lm 5mq 5og 5og 5on 5on 7jo 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7la 7laI noticed truddy wasn't always quinting fire spirits as soon as they were played & I wasn't having quanta to play sancs & they didn't matter much. Had to rush early game before fog shield, sancs against growers matter little. So I snuck a couple of shockwaves back in but they didn't matter. Managed to get a faster rush going than truddy even with both of us playing early fog shields. Won in another close one.
Good games truddy, all very close. I appreciate how easy you were to connect with for games & good luck in the future.
Pegasus – L7 (Ninja) - Target
Fog Shield – C9
Shockwave – G10
Sanctuary – H5
Blessing – E6
Momentum – J4 (Ninja) - Target
Relic x 3 – D3
Relic x 2 – K8
Relic – A11
Relic – B2
Black Hole – F1 (Ninja) – Target
Titanium Shield – I12 (Ninja)
Relics spent: 3
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Rainbow Decks / Re: Supernova-based Speedbow List
« on: June 21, 2011, 08:06:02 pm »
Nice. This is gonna be good! Let me know if I can do anything to help, from one speedbow lover to another.
Edit: Ooops o.O I just opened the spoilers and noticed theres a ton of stuffs there. I just assumed when I saw your reserved post that it wasn't finished yet.
Edit: Ooops o.O I just opened the spoilers and noticed theres a ton of stuffs there. I just assumed when I saw your reserved post that it wasn't finished yet.
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Grid / Re: Grid - Suggestions and Feedback
« on: June 21, 2011, 03:29:54 pm »
I think that would be ok. I can see forfeits of matchups with these players as potentially ruining the event for leaders as well because missing a game with a disinterested player could affect one's chances of winning the event as well. Would this totally screw up the grid and relics that are being put on it if people begin to be eliminated?
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Rainbow Decks / Re: TADAbow - AI3 Domination, Rainbow style
« on: June 20, 2011, 01:22:30 pm »
Looks like people are finding some other good uses for this deck. Grats on the FG victories. I've actually tried to play FG's about 10 times and never won with it so I gave up. Apparently there are some nasty CL versions running around dominating the meta right now. I have a good idea of what I would use, but I will wait until after CL season is over to post my version and some of the top CL players' versions.
I may have to mess around some with an elite egg version. Just looks like too much fun
I may have to mess around some with an elite egg version. Just looks like too much fun