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I am sorry if I sound harsh, but I think trying to get max score burries this deck's FGei.
People don't care so much about score/h when playing vs FGs. They can farm AI3 with much better results for score. FGei is the most important stat and when you play 6min games that decreases rapidly, because you don't spin that often. I didn't want to offend you, but as you said you tried the deck going for max score/h while here they study each deck's FGei. That's the reason I would suggest someone tests GotP while playing faster games (and >200) so we can see what it's real value is. I allways thought it's one of the best FG grinding decks cause even if it's huge (50+ cards) it can draw like crazy and fractal asap vs some gods. I'm sure it can be in the top 3 with a winrate of 65%+ and EM's if someone would play it fast. My games are usually around 3mins - max 4. I hope 10men or noobiecakes could try it, since they made the deck and are more familiar with it (or maybe someone else who is familiar with the deck and has 3-4min games mostly).I can assure you that I have spoken with Found in the past and he/she is VERY experienced with the deck. I am also very comfortable with the stats produced so far. I took 100 games earlier as a sample for the deck, and had similar results, not only for FGei, but for min/game and score/hr as well. I will do my best to get mine posted and merged within the next couple of weeks. 10 men/Noobie took extensive stats as posted on the deck site, but just not in terms of score/hr, FGei, or min/game.
I am sorry if I sound harsh, but I think trying to get max score burries this deck's FGei.
| deck | Shak'ars Revenge |
| players | kirchj33 |
| version | 1.27 | win-rate | 29.09% | ||
| $ track ? | enabled | win-rate (n) | 28.85% | ||
| games | 220 | Score/h | 7 | ||
| win-loss-(EM) | 64-156-(0) | Score/h (n) | 0 | ||
| time (h:m:s) | 07:45:09 | FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) | 3111 | ||
| min/game | 02:07 | FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) | 3058 |
| score/h | FGei(c) | Statmasta™4000 | wins | losses | skips | EM/Wins |
| 727 -785 -808 -20 -1032 609 297 556 -673 -1263 -253 -876 -653 141 634 -432 911 138 -125 -267 1082 300 151 -747 426 895 -630 -1288 1147 | 6673 -785 -808 3025 -1032 5736 3756 5963 592 -1263 1859 -876 401 2447 6488 1059 6266 3108 2811 2641 7216 4322 4216 -747 5074 6971 1228 -1288 8585 | Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket | 6 2 3 3 3 1 1 1 1 4 1 9 4 1 2 3 4 1 4 5 2 3 | 6 8 7 5 8 3 4 3 9 4 4 6 10 2 4 6 4 8 3 7 1 6 2 6 5 3 13 7 2 | | |
| deck | Shak'ars Revenge |
| players | kirchj33 |
| version | 1.27 | win-rate | 29.09% | ||
| $ track ? | enabled | win-rate (n) | 28.85% | ||
| games | 220 | Score/h | 7 | ||
| win-loss-(EM) | 64-156-(0) | Score/h (n) | 0 | ||
| time (h:m:s) | 07:45:09 | FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) | 3111 | ||
| min/game | 02:07 | FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) | 3058 |
| score/h | FGei(c) | Statmasta™4000 | wins | losses | skips | EM/Wins |
| 727 -785 -808 -20 -1032 609 297 556 -673 -1263 -253 -876 -653 141 634 -432 911 138 -125 -267 1082 300 151 -747 426 895 -630 -1288 1147 | 6673 -785 -808 3025 -1032 5736 3756 5963 592 -1263 1859 -876 401 2447 6488 1059 6266 3108 2811 2641 7216 4322 4216 -747 5074 6971 1228 -1288 8585 | Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket | 6 2 3 3 3 1 1 1 1 4 1 9 4 1 2 3 4 1 4 5 2 3 | 6 8 7 5 8 3 4 3 9 4 4 6 10 2 4 6 4 8 3 7 1 6 2 6 5 3 13 7 2 | | |
Yeah, so I think we're on the same page, but I'll try and catch you in chat later tonight just in case we're not.I mean we create a list of autoskips for each deck, and see how much money you would make if you skipped them everytime they came up instead of playing them.I think another useful thing we could do with this that wouldn't require much more work would be to find what the efficiency index would be if we included autoskips.Yeah, that's definitely on the agenda after we get more data. Hopefully, 500 games is a realistic goal for removing those skips.
Yeah, so I think we're on the same page, but I'll try and catch you in chat later tonight just in case we're not.I mean we create a list of autoskips for each deck, and see how much money you would make if you skipped them everytime they came up instead of playing them.I think another useful thing we could do with this that wouldn't require much more work would be to find what the efficiency index would be if we included autoskips.Yeah, that's definitely on the agenda after we get more data. Hopefully, 500 games is a realistic goal for removing those skips.
