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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello
« on: January 11, 2011, 08:19:09 pm »
sorry my bad. i often get definitions mixed up
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I just think things like this are funny. "Many Studies on prayer have been performed" Where are these studies? Were these people Christian? Were the prayers done as a direct test of Gods power? What were these prayers about?some people did get together actually. it was on the news about 5 or 6 years back. they got a group (large) of people suffering from the same heart disease. they split them into two groups at random and half of them were prayed for by a local church. the results showed that the group that had prayer had a much higher recovery rate. whether or not this is true i don't know but it is interesting.
One time in this forum I asked where the evidence of these studies were, and just got the remark "Well, there arent really any... But if there were then the result would be that they dont work." and that whether or not the studies were performed, doesnt matter.
Quantum theory: Nothing is real until observed. I have not observed God.this is not entirely accurate. if God were real he would surely have observed himself and therefore inevitably would be classed as real. additionally the double slit theory added with the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment merely states that you cant know what is happening to something without it being observed. this argument is complex and can never truly be solved to one person or another unless God himself comes down and says something about ti.
Don't ask me what "observe" means. I don't know the exact requirements for something to be a "conscious observer". I've only read a little bit into quantum theory, but nothing I've read told me the exact qualifications for observant consciousness. And when you think about it, consciousness doesn't really exist, since the brain is just an arrangement of subatomic particles. There might be some kind of "soul particle" that allows consciousness, but it's up to the physicists to find it.
How about this. God is a probability wave function. He is nether existent nor nonexistent. You Christians believe in (observed) God, so you collapsed the quantum waveform of God and made Him exist. We atheists don't believe in God and cannot observe Him, so for us God is not real. We can't prove God doesn't exist, but we can't prove He exists either.