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Round 9 / Re: (Underworld) Lt. Sevs 2 - 0 kevkev60614 (Death)
« on: June 08, 2011, 07:41:59 pm »
Just due to the nature of the deck it felt during the match like I was getting beat by vault vomit.

The UW deck plays a lot better than it looks on paper imo.
All of the UW decks kind of look like vault vomit (probably due to their deckbuilding restrictions), but the decks are dangerous and play surprisingly well.  Props to them and good luck to them in their matches next round!

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nilsieboy could have decked himself before you could OTK him. So it's still 1-0 in SteppingStone81's favor. And you both may continue with different decks if you want.
1.  Based on the chat transcipt, Nilsieboy claims that he was going to beat me by quinting a momentumed dune scorpion and rewinding a photon to prevent deckout.

[10:08:05] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: and btw, i would've won
[10:08:09] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: reflective shield


[10:11:30] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: you didn't won
[10:11:48] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: my deck was anti stall based, had enough tricks to beat ya
[10:11:59] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: a photon and quint would've killed you


[10:15:39] nilsieboy: root, i had quint and photon
[10:15:48] nilsieboy: quinted momentumed scorp and photon to prevent deckout


2.  I have no doubt that Nilsieboy could have decked himself, but the fact remains that he LEFT the game.  It seems like a bad idea to set a precedent that people can now leave the game without providing their own screenshot and get a rematch. 

@ PvP organizers: What is the official PvP policy now, can people leave a game without providing a screenshot and get a rematch?

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SteppingStone81:  1*
nilsieboy:  0

Game 1:
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52p 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 593 593 593 593 593 71a 71a 71b 8pm

EQ'd his pillars, plagued his GotP, put up a bone wall, killed him with arsenic (all poisons were in bottom 14 cards).

Game 2:
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4so 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5f8 5fb 5fb 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5lg 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 7do 7k2 7k2 8pq

Saving up fire quanta, with sanctuaries for healing and reflective shield to allow me to kill him.  He left the game, screen shots below.  He also claimed he would win, but bottom line, he LEFT the game.

Screenshots:



Chat transcipt:
[10:07:00] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: you timed out...
[10:07:03] Malignant: Too lazy.
[10:07:11] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: *sigh*
[10:08:05] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: and btw, i would've won :P
[10:08:09] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: reflective shield


Here nilsieboy claims he would win because he had a reflective shield

[10:08:17] SteppingStone81 [»] nilsieboy: it says you left the game
[10:08:23] SteppingStone81 [»] nilsieboy: no
[10:08:30] SteppingStone81 [»] nilsieboy: i played my own reflective shield
[10:08:36] SteppingStone81 [»] nilsieboy: and would bolt myself to kill you
[10:09:53] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: i don't know, won from ai
[10:09:56] ddevans96z: ]Stranger: stoned? | You: too yung to be stoned
[10:10:00] Terroking: ...
[10:10:02] ddevans96z: i r brilliant
[10:10:04] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: rematch?
[10:10:22] Malignant: Omegle?
[10:10:39] ddevans96z: yeah
[10:10:44] SteppingStone81 [»] nilsieboy: posting in results thread
[10:11:17] SteppingStone81: is there a PvP organizer here?
[10:11:23] vagman13: well thats the average length of an omegle conversation
[10:11:30] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: you didn't won
[10:11:48] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: my deck was anti stall based, had enough tricks to beat ya
[10:11:59] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: a photon and quint would've killed you
[10:11:59] RootRanger: by PvP do you mean events or tourneys?
[10:12:14] SteppingStone81: there can be only one
[10:12:31] SteppingStone81: http://i.imgur.com/xpupb.png
[10:12:35] RootRanger: TStar and SG are the people that organize events.
[10:12:37] nilsieboy: majofa's not here :S
[10:12:39] RootRanger: majofa is running TCOB1
[10:12:44] guest-1770: Quick question, are you able to win upgraded cards from the top 50?
[10:12:56] nilsieboy: i had same, you timed out for me to (said in chat to agains ya)
[10:13:02] Malignant: That looks like a restart.
[10:13:07] SteppingStone81: ok, i'll post screenshots in the thread then let majofa decide if we need to rematch
[10:13:10] RootRanger: no, guest
[10:13:21] RootRanger: can I see the SS SS?
[10:13:21] nilsieboy: you don't post win if you don't win
[10:13:25] nilsieboy: so don't post win yet
[10:13:34] RootRanger: nah I found it
[10:13:35] guest-1770: Okay, didn't think so. Thank you.
[10:13:36] RootRanger: I just wanted to say that
[10:13:42] SteppingStone81: @RR: http://i.imgur.com/xpupb.png
[10:14:01] Malignant: Both of you are almost at 100 HP, and it ain't worthy of rematch?
[10:14:02] Malignant: What.
[10:14:07] Theonlyrealbeef: leaving game = forfeit :o
[10:14:12] nilsieboy: can you kill at 1/2 turns? no
[10:14:20] nilsieboy: he timed out at my screen to torb
[10:14:33] SteppingStone81: i am claiming win and posting with screenshots
[10:14:33] RootRanger: so clearly he can only win with deckout
[10:14:41] SteppingStone81: if you have screenshots that dispute this please post
[10:14:44] Malignant: If this turned into Higs vs LongDono I am shooting everybody.
[10:14:54] Theonlyrealbeef: Pics or it didn't happen :P
[10:15:14] nilsieboy: don't have screen, thaught of normal rematch because i won from ai to
[10:15:14] RootRanger: you'll acquire at least 95  before decking out
[10:15:25] RootRanger: and you will only need to spend 1 fire bolt on a dune scorp, which leaves 5
[10:15:33] RootRanger: and that's enough to OHKO him before decking out
[10:15:35] RootRanger: it's your win.
[10:15:39] nilsieboy: root, i had quint and photon
[10:15:41] RootRanger: imo at least
[10:15:48] nilsieboy: quinted momentumed scorp and photon to prevent deckout
[10:16:00] nilsieboy: deflag was in hand because i didn't use yet (against deflag)
[10:16:04] RootRanger: ok, let's do some math then
[10:16:11] nilsieboy: *against fahrenheit
[10:16:14] SteppingStone81: i need 59 fire quanta to kill him from 100[/b]
[10:16:17] RootRanger: you would have to use deflag on his fahrenheit
[10:16:19] RootRanger: for obvious reasons
[10:16:28] nilsieboy: and the rule is normaly you can claim a win if both players have same outcome against ai
[10:16:30] SteppingStone81: with bolts against my own reflective shield
[10:16:31] nilsieboy: or win at 1/2 turns
[10:16:45] Malignant: What if nils magically have a reflect shield and deflag yours :P?
[10:16:48] nilsieboy: stepping, you couldn't win at 1/2 turns and it's a desync, just rematch
[10:16:49] RootRanger: hypothetically, let's say you play the dune scorp as soon as possible
[10:16:53] SteppingStone81: you LEFT the game
[10:17:01] Theonlyrealbeef: Extrapolation is pointless, there's a pic of nils leaving, but nils has no pic of SS timing out.
[10:17:05] RootRanger: when he has 17 cards left, you will do 6 damage a turn
[10:17:12] Malignant: You also LEFT the game on his side.
[10:17:15] nilsieboy: i'd play it next turn because hourglass
[10:17:21] RootRanger: actually, 10
[10:17:25] nilsieboy: yea, you timed out at my screen

edit: more conversation from chat ... basically me saying i posted and that decision is now up to majofa / PvP ogranizers / etc.
[10:17:44] Higurashi: Unfortunately, you get the leaving message when a connection drops on either side.
[10:17:44] ddevans96z: that rule needs to be utterly abolished. I know I pushed for it to be a fair solution, but the simple fact is it leaves too much in the hands of AI stupidty.
[10:17:45] willng3: FIX THE @#$%ING SERVERS!!!!!!!!!
[10:17:51] Higurashi: It's stupid and confusing.
[10:17:51] LongDono: Hello chat.
[10:17:59] Malignant: Higs vs LongDono. Version 2.
[10:18:05] willng3: Hi.
[10:18:11] nilsieboy: malig is right
[10:18:47] Neopergoss: now?
[10:18:50] LongDono: If I have to then fine, I figured I gave enough proof to show higs LEFT the match but whatever.
[10:18:57] Neopergoss: omg
[10:19:00] Neopergoss: *zomg
[10:19:07] nilsieboy: longdono, if it's a connection loss it said leave on other side
[10:19:14] Malignant: *Silence LongDono* Nu!
[10:19:21] nilsieboy: wich is very annoying, had it in bl to
[10:19:40] Higurashi: Yeah, I don't like winning by SS either. Only used it in special agreements.
[10:19:51] LongDono: but higs claimed that she saw that for me too but I was still connected.
[10:20:07] RootRanger: if you do the math, SS wins.
[10:20:18] nilsieboy: i won against his ai
[10:20:19] LongDono: Also that match was 100% mine, Sevs did the math, it was IMPOSSIBLE for higs to win unless I drew 7 dtaight pillers.
[10:20:21] RootRanger: if nilsieboy actually has a quinted dune scorp with momentum that he plays immediately
[10:20:25] nilsieboy: don't know what he played against mine
[10:20:33] RootRanger: he won't have nearly enough damage before SS can OHKO with bolts
[10:20:36] LongDono: straight.
[10:20:38] nilsieboy: and normaly the rule is can you win in 1/2 turns then it's win
[10:20:45] RootRanger: and SS will OHKO before decking out
[10:20:50] Malignant: Oh god..
[10:20:51] nilsieboy: but that wasn't, i had 100 hp left and he wasn't close to killing me
[10:20:54] Malignant: Sigh..
[10:20:57] Malignant: THIS IS MADNESS
[10:21:00] LongDono: I could have
[10:21:03] RootRanger: yes, he was
[10:21:05] LongDono: easy
[10:21:09] ddevans96z: In 17 turns, he would be
[10:21:14] Higurashi: Ready?
[10:21:17] RootRanger: after 7 turns he would have enough quanta to OHKO
[10:21:27] RootRanger: and you can't come close to killing him in 7 turns
[10:21:31] Higurashi: I feel a fail draw arisin'~
[10:21:31] LongDono: That was my match, I dont even see how this is up for debate.
[10:21:32] guest-8764: i got two upped cards in 3 spins thank you neptune 
[10:21:38] nilsieboy: 7 turns
[10:21:43] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: you wanna know what i had in deck?
[10:21:45] RootRanger: I normally try to avoid this stuff, but it's a clear win for SS
[10:22:26] LongDono: Maybe I should show you all the SS AGAIN?
[10:22:38] Higurashi: You agreed to rematch. It was history at that point.
[10:22:58] Higurashi: Similarly, I didn't take an SS because I never wanted to win like that.
[10:23:01] RootRanger: nevermind. it appears that nilsie actually has a good chance to win due to recent info that he has sent
[10:23:11] calindu: can anyone saw The_Mormegil when he comes that i'm in brb status?
[10:23:15] SteppingStone81: or because you left
[10:23:18] Higurashi: I stopped caring long ago though, so let's just get it over with.
[10:23:20] RootRanger: but I will not disclose it to keep his deck a secret
[10:23:31] nilsieboy: higs is right
[10:23:35] willng3: Can we please shut up about it. I mean my god.
[10:23:40] Higurashi: Hopefully you win so I don't get to hear more about this kindergarten nag.
[10:24:02] LongDono: Higs, you took a SS FOR EVERYTHING else, and I can tell you wanted to win that match badly.
[10:24:08] vagman13: just play a third game already
[10:24:20] Higurashi: Nope.
[10:24:21] nilsieboy: ty root, already had to tell a lot of things from my deck -,-
[10:24:21] Higurashi: I took two SS', for our last match yesterday.
[10:24:25] Higurashi: When we agreed to.
[10:24:25] nilsieboy: wich i wanted to keep secret for final blow
[10:24:31] Higurashi: I've shown everyone those.
[10:24:40] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: root agrees with me to
[10:24:42] LongDono: You took it for the desynch you won and the second game but no games that favored me, and none of the desynchs that you CLAIMED to have won.
[10:24:43] 9270984: hey chat
[10:24:45] 9270984: B: anybody?
[10:24:55] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: just rematch pls -,-
[10:24:57] RootRanger: how about this. rematch with the same decks. if nilsie wins, he will reveal the cards in his deck that would cause him to potentially win the game in the SS. does this sound fair?
[10:24:57] Higurashi: Which is why I never pushed them.
[10:25:01] Malignant: *Facedesk*
[10:25:18] Higurashi: We've been through this about three times.
[10:25:25] 9270984: are we still talking about this?
[10:25:30] Higurashi: Less nag, more getting over with.
[10:25:33] LongDono: SS clearly shows that I won.
[10:25:37] 9270984: i mean damn guys its an online ccg, get the Zanzarino over it
[10:25:51] Higurashi: I'm trying. :>
[10:25:55] LongDono: besides I can't play elements right now.
[10:25:58] Neopergoss: can't we just move on with this? numbers is right. I want to watch a match and have fun
[10:26:00] 9270984: anybody wanna bl?
[10:26:06] nilsieboy: root already knows why i would've won
[10:26:08] nilsieboy: but i don't claim win
[10:26:09] Neopergoss: bah
[10:26:11] nilsieboy: i say rematch
[10:26:22] phaedrus: I think we should just do the rematch long.
[10:26:24] Neopergoss: I never get to see these
[10:26:25] Neopergoss: oh well
[10:26:33] Shino997: wat up ppl
[10:26:34] Higurashi: I'll gladly take a loss after the ruled game. You guys took a nice deck against us.
[10:26:38] RootRanger: you don't have proof that you would win the game in the screenshot, nilsie. the only reason there is a rematch is because he doesn't have proof either
[10:26:42] Higurashi: But so did Entropy x)
[10:27:03] nilsieboy: he is afk now...?
[10:27:25] Higurashi: I'll be here for.. about 4 hours.
[10:27:33] Higurashi: Unless lightning strikes again~
[10:27:33] 9270984: so somebody please bl me
[10:27:47] RootRanger: in 5 hours, 927
[10:27:48] nilsieboy: i'm waiting for steppingstone
[10:27:50] RootRanger: oh wait
[10:27:51] vagman13: oh,no third match *closesa spectaator*
[10:27:54] RootRanger: we still have a match to finish
[10:27:54] nilsieboy: i think he's afk now -,-
[10:27:55] coinich: afk for an hour or so
[10:27:57] RootRanger: it's 1-1
[10:27:57] nilsieboy [»] SteppingStone81: you still here?
[10:28:09] 9270984: oh yea we do
[10:28:25] Higurashi: Uff, I gotta type "con" to get to 4t's CCYB. Keep typing "cc" x)
[10:29:00] nilsieboy: omg
[10:29:01] nilsieboy: he went afk now
[10:29:07] 9270984: alrighty then *cracks knuckles*
[10:29:08] Higurashi: *snuggles up to willu*
[10:29:15] willng3: Ohai :D
[10:29:16] Higurashi: So sleepy and headachy.
[10:29:23] Malignant: *Squeezes nils*
[10:29:34] willng3: Ick.
[10:29:41] nilsieboy: he hears he can't claim win and hten he goes afk... *sigh*
[10:30:03] SteppingStone81: i just posted
[10:30:11] SteppingStone81: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27323.msg372149#msg372149
[10:30:14] RootRanger: if you have a SS of your hand at that time you might be able to claim a win yourself
[10:30:20] nilsieboy: look at chat history
[10:30:27] nilsieboy: i explained rootranger what happened
[10:30:33] Malignant: I won't call it a win.
[10:30:42] nilsieboy: and he says you couldn't win neither -,-
[10:30:59] nilsieboy: stepping remove that post please...
[10:31:03] SteppingStone81: please post in thread; majofa can decide
[10:31:25] SteppingStone81: post screen shots and describe why you win
[10:31:26] nilsieboy: i don't wanna reveal my deck yet
[10:31:28] RootRanger: SS. let me offer you my suggestion.
[10:31:32] Malignant: Root did say nils had a chance of winning no?
[10:31:39] RootRanger: you both play one more game. if you win, then you defeat nils.
[10:31:41] Malignant: Means you can't claim it as a win.
[10:31:49] RootRanger: if he wins, he will show you what cards he had in the screenshot that allowed him to win
[10:31:57] RootRanger: nils had a chance of winning based on his hand
[10:31:57] Malignant: What is so hard about doing a rematch anyway?
[10:31:59] SteppingStone81: screenshot welcome
[10:32:03] RootRanger: but he doesn't want to reveal his hand to keep it a secret
[10:32:06] SteppingStone81: just post the screenshot
[10:32:23] nilsieboy: i told ya, i didn't take screenshot
[10:32:23] LongDono: back
[10:32:23] RootRanger: SS, he doesn't want to reveal his hand
[10:32:32] nilsieboy: *sigh*
[10:32:39] LongDono: sorry interwebs died
[10:32:43] RootRanger: you don't have proof that you could win because he could potentially carry cards in his hand that allowed him to win
[10:33:00] willng3: My arms are so sore D:
[10:33:11] SteppingStone81: k, thread posted. up to majofa and PvP organizers now
[10:33:34] LongDono: my back is sore will. I will give you an arm rub you give me a back rub, not gay at all.
[10:33:42] nilsieboy: steppin, do i have to show you my deck? then you can see it yourself
[10:33:51] Neopergoss: hey Long, I've been wondering how's your new job going?
[10:33:53] nilsieboy: you can do math then and see i would've won
[10:34:00] Higurashi: Not at all!
[10:34:01] RootRanger: don't do it nils
[10:34:09] RootRanger: you don't have proof that you would win
[10:34:12] RootRanger: even if you show him your deck
[10:34:15] RootRanger: because you don't have a SS
[10:34:21] RootRanger: the best you can get here is a rematch
[10:34:26] LongDono: great Neo! I am very good at it.
[10:34:33] nilsieboy: i'll send to root and higs
[10:34:37] SteppingStone81: @nilsie: post in the thread, continuing this conversation in chat is pointless.
[10:34:42] LongDono: they have already gave me extra hours too.
[10:34:45] Malignant: I rather watch a Justin Bieber music video than see all this..

I had power of 3; Nilsieboy had power of 1; I now have the power of 4!!!!

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Death / Re: Tactics
« on: June 08, 2011, 03:28:17 pm »
Unless the event card changes our vault size, I propose that we substitute the first match in round 10 (and if we lose the first, we should substitute the second match as well).  Our current vault is 96, which results in us fielding two decks.  If we playing both matches without substituting, our vault size will be exactly divisible by 36 regardless of match outcomes.
    win both:  96 + 12 = 108 = (3 * 36)win one:  96 + 6 - 30 = 72 = (2 * 36)win zero:  96 - 60 = 36
Basically, we should not salvage 6 cards for the first win of the round. 

We can actually field competitive decks the rest of the way regardless of what we choose to do here.  Our vault has 4 steals, the earth duo cards, a fractal deck, and we can salvage lots of juicy aether and fire cards from our Round 9 aether opponents' decks.  However, for these same reasons we do not need any salvage from opposing decks.  Salvaging is +6 cards, but every deck we field has an EV of approx -12 cards.

Just my two  :electrum.

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Card Ideas and Art / Re: Neurotoxin | Neurotoxin
« on: June 08, 2011, 01:17:02 pm »
4 :time and 1 card for neurotoxin is massively OP.

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Round 9 / Re: (Aether) Gen. Higurashi 2 - (UW) Gen. LongDono 1
« on: June 08, 2011, 05:42:52 am »
Hold on just a moment.

If indeed Higu had left, then at the very least if this set is not given to Dono then it should be restarted as a 1-0 in his favor.

While I wasn't able to spectate, from match descriptions it looks like Higu's win in the second match was due to LD's computer dying, forcing him to quit the match and therefore auto-lose. He quit, and Higu got a win. If Higu quits, LD should get a win, or Higu should not have gotten the first win at all.
Why is this a rematch starting at third game ... should it be a 2-0 victory for Underworld?

Definitive proof of Higurashi leaving game should be decisive.

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Round 9 / Re: (Entropy)Lt.vagman13 2 - 1 (fire) Dogg
« on: June 08, 2011, 05:31:11 am »
Thanks it worked! and a very tactical move by entropy to take down fire before aether to help their place in war. well see if it payed off
The point is more that the upgrades were more valuable in the grabow than in the mono entropy deck.  Zeru's mono entropy deck was a significant favorite vs Aether.

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Post Your PvP Event Ideas Here / Re: March Madness
« on: June 08, 2011, 05:23:56 am »
What if regions were actual regions of the world?  This would make the matches run much more smoothly until the final four if you are matched up against someone in a similar time zone to yours.
This is a great idea, Truddy.  I certainly would not want all PvP events to run this way, as I really enjoy playing against players from all corners of the world.  An event here or there which pools players early on based on region could be really awesome, though, and the theme certainly fits here!

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I defeated Vineroz 2-0

I had 1 power; Vineroz had 2 power; now I have 3 power!!!

Game 1:
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 71a 8pk

I played poison bolt, while Vineroz played flying adrenastaves / short bows.  Never drew an arsenic, but poison chipped away at his health, RoFs and fire bolts took out his flying weapons, and bolts finished him off.  I had a deflag in hand just in case he didn't fly a weapon.

Game 2:
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 55q 55q 5f6 5f6 5lg 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 71a 8pj

I expected some sort of creature rush this game and decided to play a neurotoxin-pandemonium stall.  Vineroz got out an early discord, but I played a nova and due to scrambling was able to deflag his discord.  I eventually played a momentum'd dune scorp, my upped arsenic, and deflagged his lone earth pillar.  He evolved one graboid which pandemonium killed (while unfortunately BB'ing my scorp).  Eventually, he flew a trident and another discord to go along with a couple more graboids.  Sundial chains left me at 80 health for the win.

GGs vineroz and good luck the rest of the event!

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Round 9 / Re: (Entropy)Lt.vagman13 2 - (Fire) Dogg 1
« on: June 07, 2011, 08:43:21 pm »
Whoa ... why's everyone hating on :death all of a sudden?  We are still in a distant 3rd place ourselves   :'(

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Role-Playing / Re: An Elemental Adventure
« on: June 07, 2011, 08:34:18 pm »
I don't think we even have a means of lighting a fire yet, so let's not get ahead of ourselves  :o

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Death / Re: The Unavailability Thread
« on: June 07, 2011, 08:30:16 pm »
Can we avoid sub-related penalties if we change the team roster before next round?  (i.e., promote Marv to temporary general)

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