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Rainbow Decks / Re: Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)
« on: May 07, 2010, 04:02:46 pm »
How many play with pharao deck? I must say: this is my favorite anti-fg deck now. If you like electrum hourglasses, rewinding cards, intresting uphill starts and somewhat weird situations, you definitely must try pharao!

I took few pics, first one is like earlier 'lock' (posted by Xinef) and second from my latest game. I put some statistic, and update this page daily, if someone is intrested?

win-loss

Ferox 2-1
Neptune 2-2
Osiris 0-2
Seism 3-2
Fire Queen 2-1
Obliterator 3-2
Destiny 2-0
Miracle 1-1
Decay 0-1
Rainbow 0-3
Morte 2-2
Dream Catcher 0-2
Incarnate 3-0
Octane 1-2
Gemini 1-0
Eternal Phoenix 3-0
Hermes 0-3
Divine Glory 1-4
Elidris 1-1
Chaos Lord 1-2
Scorpio 2-0

win 29/58 total played games (still this don't prove anything yet, too few games so far)






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Rainbow Decks / Re: Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)
« on: May 07, 2010, 09:52:57 am »
My current version:

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Still thinking... ulitharid left the deck (that makes me little sad). Added 2 antimatters, 2 time towers, 1 electrum hourglass, +1 alfatoxin, removed many quantum towers. I played so many games with alfatoxin - now I'm testing if it fits to this deck. There is still 2 quantum towers. If there isn't any, devour don't work too long. At the point I really start eating FG's cards there is 12+ gravity quantum and later it's like 0-1 gravity quantum / turn with 2 quantum towers (how useful that can be? LOL). Animate weapon is golden, you can rewind so much more fg's cards - so many it almost make me feel sorry... ><

EDIT: Played for awhile and this version is better than my earlier variation. Don't have exact data, but my humble guess is that win rate is now about 43% - time to make some statistics, I guess.

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Rainbow Decks / Re: Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)
« on: May 07, 2010, 05:06:52 am »
38% win rate is not bad overall, but my deck seems to have a better rate and I still see some problems with your deck so I guess it's not about your playing skills, but rather the deck needs some tweaking.
Maybe it's not overall, but I want at least +5% (knowing something is not right with this deck). Played lot with 30 card decks, and win rate is about 20-25% - funny thing with weak deck is you still win enough, make some electrum, cards drop..


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My suggestion: drop Jade Shield. It might be good against Octane and Decay, but tell me how often are you able to cast it against decay? It's really hard to gather even 7 :life with such a deck, unless you try to gather 4 supernovas to cast at once.
I can't see this that way, reason is: Jade is good shield and used in variety situations. Jade don't need PA, Jade blocks 2 damage and buy some time when needed.

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I find plagues much better against Decay and against Octane a few SoGs + Eternity to rewind flying Eagle Eyes + a Fog Shield so that they miss even if in weapon slot...
Fog shield (and dusk) is very good and cheap to cast.

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In my deck I tried to pack cards that are useful against all the false gods, not counters to specific ones. Protect Artifacts are the only card that is useful against less than half of the FGs. Jade shield are on the other hand not very useful against any false god with dragons, buffed or growing creatures.
Thats true, still Jade helped me so many times, can't even think fg killer without Jade >< (maybe it's kind of fixation).



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I have not tried using an ulitharid because I need :water for permafrost, but I guess it can be useful sometimes. I would prefer using quint on a pharaoh, a fallen elf/butterflied graviton firemaster, or on a scarab if I'm against Graviton/Neptune/Osiris, but I guess an ulitharid could help against some FGs like Fire Queen, Dark Matter, Osiris... I think it's not a bad decision, but it indeed needs more non-time quanta production.
On the other hand eternity is NOT useless against decay. It really helps if you can slow her down even only by half.
I quint everything I can, always - that's the main reason why I hava elite anubis in deck :)

One bond removed, added antimatter and another permafrost - let see is it bad or good choice >< - maybe I replace one firestorm with another plague later...

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Rainbow Decks / Re: Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:00:12 pm »
I think that two feral bonds and one jade shield is too heavy on life quanta.

How you calculated it? There is 6 supernovas and 6 quantum towers, bond's are very useful and there is usually much life quanta when needed. Still one bond maybe enough, if I replace it with Antimatter.

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About the Jade Shield, it's useful against Octane, Decay, Eternal Phoenix, and other firelancers, but for the rest of the gods, permafrost is better. Maybe it would be better the white shield that reflects, because you can cast it faster.
Jade shield is very useful as secondary shield (damage reduction 2), I use it everytime I can, and permafrost for hordes of course.

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I don't see the point in Ulitharid. If there is a nasty creature with momentum, you can rewind it with the eternity.
Can't always do everything with eternity. Ulitharid helps against many FG's. Decay's braindead Pests and so on (eternity is useless against decay, and sometimes harmless fillers is really good thing). I always quint it, with quintessence or anubis.

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Maybe sundials will be useful to stall until you have the rights cards.
Deck is big without sundials, maybe I figure out something tomorrow.

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Random, Normal and Elder / Re: Entropy Mark AI3 Grinder?
« on: May 06, 2010, 07:17:25 pm »
Upgraded, a speed rainbow does wonders.
Yes, but even stupid ideas work well in AI3. This deck is so silly, but still effective.

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Rainbow Decks / Re: Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:27:49 pm »
I'd love to see some statistics from you ;]
26 games played today:
.....win/loss....
Seism 0-3
Miracle 1-1
Destiny 1-0
Dream Catcher 0-1
Obliterator 0-2
Incarnate 5-0
Gemini 1-1
Decay 1-1
Octane 0-1
Osiris 0-1
Morte 0-2 (morte is quite easy fg, maybe my luck was terrible or I'm exceptional bad player)
Paradox 1-0
Dark Matter 0-1
Chaos Lord 0-1
Divine Glory 0-1

total 10/26 = 38% win rate - so deck need some sort of fix

Early shield is key for staying alive... this deck need more defensive card's, maybe I add another permafrost to deck. Still quite rarely starting hand is very bad, and when things start going well this deck is like a train: nothing can stop it. Played against incarnate 5 times (easy one), just keep scarabs busy and don't care when bonewall is like 50+ ><. 

Hmm... -1 firestorm, +1 permafrost ? or antimatter..

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Rainbow Decks / Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21)
« on: May 05, 2010, 08:02:12 pm »
I tried this deck for several times and it fits good for me. I only added 2 cards whitch helped me to survive:

Another Quintessence and a Purple Nymph...

Somethimes it's hard to get the nymph running because you need the entropy quanta for the butterfly effect, but as long as you don't have it availble/you don't need to destroy something fro our enemy you're not dependend on the shards for healing.
That sounds really really entropy heavy, and half the time I eat everything on the board, I am doubting the usefulness the nymph. But then its not like i can try it hehe

Anyway, glad you found the variation you like  ;)
Butterfly Angel deck is "too fast" deck to use antimatter (even in antimatter card). In my 40 card version two antimatters it's must because mostly lack of supernovas make it so slow. Against Obliterator antimatter is golden: you have something useful that pulvy can't destroy :)

Adding too much 'good ideas' to same deck don't make it better, sometimes I also lost focus or try something pretty weird like 30 card rainbow's :o

I have to say this Butterfly Angel is pretty good one, small and solid.

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Rainbow Decks / Re: Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)
« on: May 05, 2010, 07:17:31 pm »
Pharao is awesome card and I think Anubis is must have too. It took some time to make balanced deck (ok, I shamelesly took basics from your deck). Actually my variation is mix from your latest two versions, and spiced with something my own. Played lot with two eternities, so I thought why not add one animate weapon? You have lots and lots time quantum, so much you can't use it all anyway no matter what. First I made an 40 card version, but when I realised how fast deck can be when you don't have to count every time quantum: just draw like a madman and it takes only few turns when you draw last card. This deck type (time heavy) is SO FUN... with two eternities you can rewind FG's and own cards in same turn - how good is that?

I'm not saying this version is super good or something like that, but it's definitely enjoyable. If there is obvious flaws in deck design, let me know so I can tweak it.

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Rainbow Decks / Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist
« on: May 05, 2010, 05:48:18 am »
this deck need 2 photons *one for butter fly and one for rapid rewind* here is a better DOU fg 30 card deck
Other Otyugh is for Butterfly Effect. There is still 2 of them, so you have better odds have one early for creature control. (reason why I don't use another RoL or Pest for that)

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Rainbow Decks / Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist
« on: May 04, 2010, 07:56:13 pm »
First the deck (yes, my obsession don't go away) going from time to entropy..

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Funny thing is: there isn't any quantum towers and still this is kind of rainbow deck. Less funny thing is: IF FG destroy your time towers, you automatically deck out very soon.

But deck is much faster than typical rainbow.

Another known problem is bad draws, but shit happens and when this one get everything ready (= right cards in play), you have good changes for victory. Few games played so far and this is better than first deck - if somebody is crazy enough to test this 'mess' tell me what you think  :))

You may have questions about towers, why there is 2 graviton towers (and only 1 otuygh for 'nom nom'), mostly these odd things are there for speed up the process.

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Rainbow Decks / Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist
« on: May 02, 2010, 03:01:44 pm »
OK i played this deck, it seems to have a low win rate, im posting my win/loss rate
also i would recomend a few RoFs
Hermes 0/1
Dark mater 0/1
morte 1/0
decay 0/1
ferox 0/1
octane 0/1
FFQ 0/1

this deck has one form of creature control making it weak.
There is only few things for that: Alfatoxin, Improved Plague, Otyugh and Eternity. It's typical that takes too many turns to build up defences. RoF is good idea, just thinking what to take out.. -improved plague / +1 RoF ?

I play more games with deck, but this point I can say this deck have obvious problems. Just played against Decay, and I was thinking decking out that FG, BUT when Decay have only 4 cards left damn pest's drain too much time quanta :/ 2 left -> deck out loss.

EDIT: Some more thoughts. Condor is not must have (only for damage), so I can also remove one quintessence - adding firestorm and improved fog, but main problem still stay: quantum don't pile up (buildup is a right term?) as fast as I hope (+2 quantum towers is one option too). Had few very succesful games (just before I post this deck; too hasty...) and afterwards mostly bad ones. Maybe entropy/supernovas are only way around this problem, still looking if 30 card rainbow deck is possible (with time mark).

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Rainbow Decks / Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist
« on: May 02, 2010, 01:59:30 pm »
The name of the deck doesn't make me feel confident to try it. :)
It's ok. Don't try it.

EDIT: Personally I like this one and usually every single mistake is fatal :) Like while ago: I was winning Neptune, and after break I just sit down, press space -> instant deck out loss. This deck is fragile thing :o)

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