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Politics / Political Orientation
« on: January 21, 2012, 07:08:53 pm »
http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

While I know these things are far from complete and are not entirely accurate, it would still be interesting to get a base line political orientation of a lot of the community members just to see how we fall in the left/right and Authoritarian/Libertarian spectrum.

Kicked me back as

Economic Left/Right - 3.75
Social Libertarian/ Authoritarian : 3.33

So I'm in the Authoritarian Right

* Edit - the quiz OT found is just about as short and is of much better quality and can be found at this link http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html

On the one OT found I scored Right: 5.11, Authoritarian: 3.7

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Music / Re: Rate the song above you
« on: January 21, 2012, 06:23:23 pm »
8/10

-1 Had a really hard time making out a lot of what the long haired guy said when he was doing the pocket full of poises part
-1 Didn't like the long "AHHHHHHHHHHH" part

+1 lead singer is hot

Total of 9/10
All in all happy I listened to it, its pretty far outside of my normal music selection



* Edit:  forgot to add a song like a retard, its too early for this >.<

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Religion / Re: Jesus did not exist (link I found)
« on: January 21, 2012, 02:59:20 am »
I don't think that link is what I would consider "credible". It is highly skewed against Jesus existing without taking many other facts that most scholars agree on into consideration.

   There are almost no religious scholars today that believe that Jesus didn't exist. In fact most all evidence points to a man who was born in Galilee during the reign of Augustus roughly around 4 B.C.  Which oddly enough is around the time of the Census of Quirinius which would back the story of Joe and Mary being forced to travel during the time of his birth.
   There is also an official roman record stating that "Christus... was executed at the hands of the procurator Pontious Pilate."
Another historian of the time (Lucian of Samosta) stated that Christ was the man who was crucified in Palestine.
   In addition to this there has actually beena quite a bit of investigation into the birth of Jesus, which seems to point to Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera being the father. This man was a Roman soldier of the time, and it is speculated that he either seduced or raped Mary causing the famed "virgin pregnancy"

   I would like everyone to note that the Roman records are about as small as I wrote them, so Rome did not find this man important , Think something more like a minor note in a courts criminal record toady. Also The part about Pantera, while accepted as fact by many people is still only speculation. Regardless it is all rather interesting stuff if you have the time to look into it, if enough people are interested I can dig up my old college books out of storage and give you more definitive sources (I double majored in Philosophy and Religion for my undergrad)

   In a nutshell I truly believe there is more than enough evidence out there to convince any reasonable person that a man named Jesus lived and died in the appropriate time frame given in the bible. However, there is absolutely no hard evidence to prove the story of the virgin birth, the miracles that were supposedly performed, or that Rome found this man to be the least bit important all of that has to be left to faith, the gospel, and other religious accounts such as the Talmud.

*edit - found two spelling errors and apparently the forums don't like my tab button -.-
I believe this link is about as credible as any other piece of writing. Even if you did gather up the books you got your information from I could still say the same thing you are about this, that it isn't credible to the conversation as this person has done their research just the same as those other writers and does deserve to have their opinions, beliefs and views read. At least their views are a breath of fresh air rather than the stale gas others keep writing which is normally the same thing just with different wording and a different author name.
No offence to the books you read or your beliefs but the things you've mentioned are basically the same thing he is saying, jesus was a normal man and not some magic worker or born from a virgin etc etc.
But that is just my views.


... I am still not understanding your view here. How were the romans neo-pagans? They had their own religion, and assimilated different cultures and technologies to add to their own. My question remains, why would the Romans write about a single person belonging to a recently conquered culture on the fringe of Roman society?

I personally have a hard time finding a Satanist who studied math, biology, and physics receiving no mark higher than a C who posts on the internet just as credible as published religious scholars.

If it is credible just because someone has done their research, does that mean Joe Blow with a background in computer science could do research on medicine and post it on some website and it would be just as credible as published work in a medical journal?

Or even for that matter, could I rework my post into a research paper like format and post it on the internet and expect people to take it at face value?

Hopefully the answer to both of those questions is no

With that said I do realize he has been in several religious debates on the radio and has even published several chapters in a book about Satanism. Regardless if you read the article that you posted he claims he doubts there was a historical Jesus at all (see the second sentence in the article you posted) which is quite different than the "just human" alternative that I put forth which he does no allude to.  In addition he claims there are no records of Jesus being crucified in the first place when they do exist as aforementioned.

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Religion / Re: Jesus did not exist (link I found)
« on: January 20, 2012, 11:49:07 pm »
I don't think that link is what I would consider "credible". It is highly skewed against Jesus existing without taking many other facts that most scholars agree on into consideration.

   There are almost no religious scholars today that believe that Jesus didn't exist. In fact most all evidence points to a man who was born in Galilee during the reign of Augustus roughly around 4 B.C.  Which oddly enough is around the time of the Census of Quirinius which would back the story of Joe and Mary being forced to travel during the time of his birth.
   There is also an official roman record stating that "Christus... was executed at the hands of the procurator Pontious Pilate."
Another historian of the time (Lucian of Samosta) stated that Christ was the man who was crucified in Palestine.
   In addition to this there has actually been quite a bit of investigation into the birth of Jesus, which seems to point to Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera being the father. This man was a Roman soldier of the time, and it is speculated that he either seduced or raped Mary causing the famed "virgin pregnancy"

   I would like everyone to note that the Roman records are about as small as I wrote them, so Rome did not find this man important , Think something more like a minor note in a courts criminal record toady. Also The part about Pantera, while accepted as fact by many people is still only speculation. Regardless it is all rather interesting stuff if you have the time to look into it, if enough people are interested I can dig up my old college books out of storage and give you more definitive sources (I double majored in Philosophy and Religion for my undergrad)

   In a nutshell I truly believe there is more than enough evidence out there to convince any reasonable person that a man named Jesus lived and died in the appropriate time frame given in the bible. However, there is absolutely no hard evidence to prove the story of the virgin birth, the miracles that were supposedly performed, or that Rome found this man to be the least bit important all of that has to be left to faith, the gospel, and other religious accounts such as the Talmud.

*edit - found two spelling errors and apparently the forums don't like my tab button -.-

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Politics / Re: SOPA
« on: January 17, 2012, 06:53:22 pm »
Wikimedia is having a blackout in protest of SOPA. So if you need to get any research done, do it in the next 23 hours.
> implying Wiki's have any credibility
 
People should be doing their research properly and not taking "short cuts" ... In addition its only going to be dark for a day
1) Wiki's are more credible than the vast majority give them credit for thanks to many people who work to maintain its quality. 2) Using a wiki isnt "improper" research (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research) and is only a shortcut in the sense of it is the quickest place to find general information on a subject. 3) A -real- reason for not using wikis is that wikipedia is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias should not be used for research papers because information in them is in most cases considered common knowledge. 4) Wikipedia often cites it's sources meaning that the information has backing and also meaning that 5) one can use wikipedia to locate scholarly sources.

As for only going dark for a day...yeah, thats not going to be much of a punch, but it's something and it keeps the momentum of the opposition of this bill going, which is importent
While there are people who maintain quality on the wiki sites there is also the problem of people maliciously changing pages as "graffiti" or to win bets on which they would otherwise be wrong.  While this problem is quickly fixed it still causes the problem of misinformation which has been caused by acts such as these on numerous occasions by people checking the wrong article at the wrong time. This has become prevalent enough to create several new terms such as collateral misinformation. As such the wiki's can be a decent place to start research (to find outside links verifying the information contained within the article, which may or may not be accurate)  it is by no means anything more than a bank of common knowledge as you yourself have pointed out.

It would appear we have gotten quite off-topic though...

As for the bill itself, I don't think it will pass in its current form, I'd wager we see a similar proposal shortly after this one fails though

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Politics / Re: SOPA
« on: January 17, 2012, 05:43:17 pm »
Wikimedia is having a blackout in protest of SOPA. So if you need to get any research done, do it in the next 23 hours.
> implying Wiki's have any credibility
 
People should be doing their research properly and not taking "short cuts" ... In addition its only going to be dark for a day

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Forum Game Archive / Re: Fanatics and Heretics 2 - by Kuroaitou
« on: January 17, 2012, 06:08:26 am »
Doesn't really matter that we came back with 1 hp, Octane is just going to blow his fuse and kill all the 1 hpers >.<


Good game we should have listened to spike last turn

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Philosophy / Re: Words to live by.
« on: January 14, 2012, 04:58:11 am »
At the risk of sounding like a heartless bitch...

"No good deed goes unpunished"


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Forum Game Archive / Re: Fanatics and Heretics 2 - by Kuroaitou
« on: January 11, 2012, 06:21:46 am »
heh, I never had a chance to mess with the keys, thought it would be more hassle than it was worth; damn did I turn out to be right...

now who needs to die to fix this?

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Forum Game Archive / Re: Fanatics and Heretics 2 - by Kuroaitou
« on: January 10, 2012, 02:20:44 am »
Sadism (The Mormegil) actions
fight Onizuka
fight Onizuka
fight Onizuka
Looks like you barely survived  :))
Meh, I'm halfway expecting Oni to use his false god abillity to kill him before any healing goes out... so I'm not sure if he has "survived" just yet

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Forum Game Archive / Re: Fanatics and Heretics 2 - by Kuroaitou
« on: January 09, 2012, 06:53:18 am »
Sadism (The Mormegil) actions
fight Onizuka
fight Onizuka
fight Onizuka

Is it really safe to start making enemies like that on the very first turn, especially when you start out with lower hp and your ability is costing you even more hp... just looking out for you

<3 Kynth

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