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Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg354434#msg354434
« on: June 21, 2011, 12:12:38 pm »
Grid - Round 6

Round 6 : time's up !

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    Terroking and RavingRabbid will finish their match soon. I updated the Grid without waiting for them.I'm very sorry for being so late for this round. Too much procrastination is BAD.jippy99 has left, dracomageat enters ! He will receive bans, Relics and bets from jippy.Remember that you'll eventually receive you Bet rewards next round.Remember that
you can't Target your bets this round ! You can still pick them however.[/list]Event : Ninja hunt !
    Captain, that's awesome ! We found a whole vault full of Relics in the forest !I see the mark of a ninja clan on the vault. These warriors must have hidden a lot of them.Are we going to hunt them ?Indeed ! But we failed to target them so far, we'll now get our revenge...[/list]Special Rules : Every player receives 3 Relics. Moreover, if you win : receive 1 extra Relic for every 2 Ninja Slots you pick, 1 extra Relic for every Ninja Slot you Target. Receive also 3 extra Relics if all the cards slots you pick are Ninja slots.

    All of these bonuses are, of course, cumulative. If you lose, you can still gain the 3 extra Relics all your card slots are Ninja slots.

    What are Ninja slots ? Simply the ones that were stealthy enough to not being Targeted by winners in earlier rounds. Here is the full list of them :
    Gnome Rider
    Black Hole
    Fire Shield
    Freeze
    Firefly Queen
    Spark
    Plague
    Crusader
    Emerald Dragon
    Dragonfly
    Golden Dragon
    Solar Shield
    Shield
    Virus
    Armagio
    Rustler
    Voodoo Doll
    Soul Catcher
    Chimera
    Morning Star
    Gargoyle
    Pulverizer
    Pegasus
    Vulture
    Aflatoxin
    Graviton Fire Eater
    Short Sword
    Boneyard
    Flesh Spider
    Mummy
    Fate Egg
    Gravity Pull
    Nightmare
    Quintessence
    Titan
    Mutation
    Precognition
    Titanium Shield
    Phase Spider

    Moreover, every player gains 3 Relics. You can add them to your Relic count from Round 5.

    Here's a reminder of the slot picking and deckbuilding rules :
      No 2 picks in the same row or columnNo card slot you picked last round (see the ban list below). If it's now a Relic slot, you can pick itYou can use 3 upped cards in all your decks for each Relic you spendAny size, any mark, any Pillars and PendulumsCards from the slots you have chosen (not necessarily all), any number of copies of themDouble-check your picks : once you sent me valid ones, you can't change them.
    Standings

    See the Results table for your total Relic count (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27676.0.html)

    Don't forget to add 3 Relics to this number !

    Bans

    majofaDimensional Shield - Sanctuary - Parallel Universe - Wings - Ice Dragon - Toadfish - Stone Skin - Titanium Shield
    ak65alaDimensional Shield - Anubis - Thunderstorm - Holy Light - Photon
    kevkev60614Toadfish - Black Hole - Jade Shield - Graviton Mercenary - Soul Catcher - Mitosis
    SeraphToadfish - Trident - Ice Dragon - Armagio
    The MormegilToadfish - Trident - Ice Dragon - Emerald Shield - Gargoyle - Drain Life - Nymph's Tears
    SteppingStone81Toadfish - Precognition - Gnome Rider - Ice Dragon - Gravity Shield - Sanctuary - Pulverizer
    ddevans96Toadfish - Phoenix - Chaos Seed - Ice Dragon - Parallel Universe - Quintessence - Fire Spirit - Antimatter - Nymph's Tears
    TheForbiddenOracleCrusader - Owl's Eye - Wings - Sanctuary - Hammer - Gravity Shield - Short Sword - Colossal Dragon
    RavingRabbidDrain Life - Dimensional Shield - Devourer - Sanctuary - Morning Star - Mindgate - Ice Bolt - Precognition
    coinichDrain Life - Nightfall - Devourer - Voodoo Doll - Gargoyle - Mitosis - Lava Golem - Otyugh
    TerrokingGraviton Fire Eater - Rain of Fire - Plate Armor - Otyugh - Gravity Shield - Butterfly Effect - Gravity Pull
    agentflareHoly Light - Forest Scorpion - Chaos Seed - Nova - Graviton Mercenary - Scarab - Pulverizer - Mitosis
    kirchj33Toadfish - Owl's Eye - Dimensional Shield - Chaos Seed - Ice Dragon - Parallel Universe - Scarab - Pulverizer - Horned Frog
    KakerlakeToadfish - Trident - Gnome Rider - Ice Dragon - Graviton Mercenary - Sanctuary - Pulverizer
    valukaFreeze - Trident - Enchant Artifact - Ice Dragon - Emerald Shield - Soul Catcher - Wings - Phase Spider
    Napalm GrenadeDimensional Shield - Anubis - Parallel Universe - Devonian Dragon - Quintessence - Photon
    nilsieboyToadfish - Black Hole - Jade Shield - Graviton Mercenary - Soul Catcher - Mitosis
    DevilLossDimensional Shield - Anubis - Thunderstorm - Holy Light - Photon
    dracomageatToadfish - Trident - Gnome Rider - Ice Dragon - Graviton Mercenary - Sanctuary - Pulverizer
    calindu221Thorn Carapace - Forest Scorpion - Anubis - Hammer - Horned Frog
    mrpaperThorn Carapace - Rain of Fire - Lava Golem - Spark - Dagger - Short Bow - Titanium Shield
    Five In OneDimensional Shield - Anubis - Parallel Universe - Devonian Dragon - Quintessence - Photon
    JockoToadfish - Owl's Eye - Trident - Emerald Shield - Butterfly Effect - Wings
    truddy02Holy Light - Forest Scorpion - Chaos Seed - Nova - Graviton Mercenary - Scarab - Pulverizer - Mitosis
    Matchups

    majofavs.RavingRabbid
    ak65alavs.Seraph
    kevkev60614vs.DevilLoss
    The Mormegilvs.Five In One
    SteppingStone81vs.Napalm Grenade
    ddevans96vs.TheForbiddenOracle
    coinichvs.Terroking
    agentflarevs.valuka
    kirchj33vs.truddy02
    Kakerlakevs.calindu221
    nilsieboyvs.mrpaper
    dracomageatvs.Jocko
    Grid

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    1LightningSilenceIce Shield1 RelicGnome RiderBlack HoleStealMinor VampireButterfly EffectFire Shield1 RelicCatapult
    2Freeze1 Relic1 RelicFirefly Queen1 Relic1 Relic1 Relic1 RelicDrain Life1 RelicReflective ShieldSkull Shield
    3Nightfall2 RelicsFirefly3 RelicsSparkPlague1 RelicChrysaora1 Relic1 RelicGolden HourglassNymph's Tears
    4CrusaderDevourerEmerald DragonDragonflyLuciferineGolden Dragon1 RelicDruidic StaffFire SpiritMomentumSolar ShieldProcrastination
    5Dune ScorpionShieldVirusPlate Armor2 Relics1 RelicEmerald ShieldSanctuaryArmagioRustlerHematite GolemVoodoo Doll
    6FractalImmortalGraboidAsh EaterBlessingNova1 Relic1 RelicSoul CatcherIridium WardenVampire StilettoForest Spirit
    7Chimera1 RelicMorning Star1 RelicImmolation1 Relic1 RelicGargoylePulverizer1 Relic2 RelicsPegasus
    81 Relic1 Relic1 Relic1 Relic1 Relic1 RelicPharaoh1 Relic1 RelicVulture2 RelicsAflatoxin
    9Graviton Fire EaterPhoenixFog Shield2 RelicsShort SwordEternityBoneyardScarabFlesh Spider1 Relic1 RelicMummy
    101 RelicThorn CarapaceHealBlue CrawlerEnchant ArtifactWyrmShockwave1 RelicAntlionFate EggIce BoltGravity Pull
    111 RelicNightmare1 Relic1 RelicStone SkinDagger1 RelicQuintessenceTitanPhase DragonHorned FrogRage Potion
    12MutationShrieker1 RelicPrecognition1 Relic1 RelicAzure Dragon1 RelicTitanium ShieldAntimatter1 RelicPhase Spider
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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg354449#msg354449
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 01:24:11 pm »
    I'm very sorry for being so late for this round. Too much procrastination is BAD.
    Lol :))

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg354545#msg354545
    « Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 06:11:33 pm »
    I'm very sorry for being so late for this round. Too much procrastination is BAD.
    Lol :))
    inb4 10 people target L4.
    I ask nothing of humanity but fairness in all things, but I do not expect even that.

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg354570#msg354570
    « Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 07:23:59 pm »
    Moreover, every player gains 3 Relics. You can add them to your Relic count from Round 5.
    You know those puzzles, in which state stuff like "X is left of B" and "Q is not next to Y" and you have to find where the hard constrains are, then push out where everything is located?  Trying to craft your picks to fulfill this criteria feels like those puzzles.  I applaud Gyrodiot in using this event when there are still choices to make this able to be accomplished, without forcing you into one set of cards.

    Mind Explosion Time!
    Did you opponents choose cards in which were not picked yet for the bets, causing this event to help them turn their targets into relics?  Did your opponents target already relic slots, causing this event to not collect the relics on those slots, giving them a greater chance of reaping their bets?  Did your opponents even try to have a strategy when the choose their bets?  Do you even care? 

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg354613#msg354613
    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 08:10:20 pm »
    Did you opponents choose cards in which were not picked yet for the bets, causing this event to help them turn their targets into relics?  Did your opponents target already relic slots, causing this event to not collect the relics on those slots, giving them a greater chance of reaping their bets?  Did your opponents even try to have a strategy when the choose their bets?  Do you even care?
    Do I care? For the most part no :P, it's simpler that way

    The way I choose cards is that I zoom out the web browser as much as possible, then go to the grid
    Normally all the grid pics are small, however if you click on the card pic, it expands. Because the table size is as big as the biggest cell, the entire row and column of the card you picked expands
    This way, you can easily identify which cells are in the same row/column, without looking at the numbers

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg354614#msg354614
    « Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 08:13:08 pm »
    inb4 10 people target L4.
    I considered it but I apparently have to pick my targets and I obviously don't want to pick something BAD...

    EDIT: So the guy I'm replacing just used up all his relics and left? That's hardly fair on me. Oh well, I've got plenty of catching up time right?

    I PMed my opponent yesterday, still waiting for a response.

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg355122#msg355122
    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 11:18:46 pm »
    I'll answer you once i finish my picks.

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg355125#msg355125
    « Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 11:35:48 pm »
    inb4 10 people target L4.
    I considered it but I apparently have to pick my targets and I obviously don't want to pick something BAD...

    EDIT: So the guy I'm replacing just used up all his relics and left? That's hardly fair on me. Oh well, I've got plenty of catching up time right?

    I PMed my opponent yesterday, still waiting for a response.
    You get 3 free! :D

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg355400#msg355400
    « Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 04:22:23 pm »
    Fair enough Jocko, I did mine day 1.

    @Seraph: yeah but other people have 30+ so I'm clearly way behind.

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg355952#msg355952
    « Reply #9 on: June 24, 2011, 02:29:09 pm »
    Now that most of the battles have gone through, and the round is over, He're what I found with this event.  It was a great way to kill some of the 'less useful' cards in the grid, it came at the right time, and it gave picking incentives over flat out grabbing the 'best' cards + relic slots.  Very well made event.

    The only sad thing I found was the lack of motivation to pick a grid entirely of ninja slots.  I had one set up, and it came out to have some okay decks, but the +3 relics for all ninjas was underwhelming.  The other events had picking a sub-optimal set of cards from the grid give a good advantage in relics (round 5 for best example).  I could use my all ninja setup, and gain 12 relics (6 for 12 ninjas, 3 for ninja targets, 3 from all ninjas) or go with a better deck setup and gain the same amount.  (what I choose to do in the end)

    Perhaps, you could make the ninja picks amount to scale with relics won next time?  Something like first four ninja picks are 1 relic per 2, next 4 are one relic each, last 4 are 2 relics each.  That would give incentive to add more ninjas vs only relic slots.  Most of the ninja slots were 'sub-optimal' and such a scaling would could make picking more interesting then the 'pick 4 ninjas, 3 to target' setups almost everyone used in the end.

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    Re: Grid - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27802.msg356096#msg356096
    « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 06:11:10 pm »
    Now that most of the battles have gone through, and the round is over, He're what I found with this event.  It was a great way to kill some of the 'less useful' cards in the grid, it came at the right time, and it gave picking incentives over flat out grabbing the 'best' cards + relic slots.  Very well made event.

    The only sad thing I found was the lack of motivation to pick a grid entirely of ninja slots.  I had one set up, and it came out to have some okay decks, but the +3 relics for all ninjas was underwhelming.  The other events had picking a sub-optimal set of cards from the grid give a good advantage in relics (round 5 for best example).  I could use my all ninja setup, and gain 12 relics (6 for 12 ninjas, 3 for ninja targets, 3 from all ninjas) or go with a better deck setup and gain the same amount.  (what I choose to do in the end)

    Perhaps, you could make the ninja picks amount to scale with relics won next time?  Something like first four ninja picks are 1 relic per 2, next 4 are one relic each, last 4 are 2 relics each.  That would give incentive to add more ninjas vs only relic slots.  Most of the ninja slots were 'sub-optimal' and such a scaling would could make picking more interesting then the 'pick 4 ninjas, 3 to target' setups almost everyone used in the end.
    It seems to me that as someone running the event (gyro), there is less incentive to allow people to make huge relic gains like some of the previous rounds, but in order to encourage a productive flow and promote a fun grid, the incentive to target ninja cells needed to remain high.  Well made event imo.  Just my  :electrum.

     

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