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Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459822#msg459822
« on: February 13, 2012, 07:59:08 pm »
    Grid - Round 2

    Period 2 : time's up !
    Period 3 : time's up !

    You should receive in the next hours a PM with very useful info (your Relics, your bans, the bans of your opponent, cookies not included)

    Useful notes
      Important : don't post your Round 2 results until Period 3 (because of possible copying and of course because of the Round Event)Don't forget to include your 2 Targets and Relics spent in your picks.If you're lost with the periods, visit the Schedule Overview (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36397.0.html)Standings will be available as soon as possible, if you're reading this, I'm working on it at this very moment.Same goes for Floating Matches, I'm working on it.I won't answer to PMs unless you sent wrong picks, or if you've got a question. If you sent valid picks, I'll put your name in bold in the matchups (not immediately as I'm not always online)For your own comfort, complete your duels as soon as possible ^^ You'll have more time to prepare and schedule the next one.[/list]
      Round event : Show you're different !
        Different ? Are you kidding me ? It's the same Grid as the previous round !Yes, it is. Same cards, same places, everything.... and everyone will choose the same thing.I wouldn't be so sure about that.Why ?See these turrets around you ? Learning algorithms. Ready to take you down if you repeat a known move.Since when do they have turrets ?[/list]
        Special Rules : All players gain 2 Relics immediately. Gain 1 (or 3) extra Relics if one (or both) of your Targets is (are) unique. Winners gain 10 minus M extra Relics, where M is the maximum matches between your picks and Round 1 picks.

        If you're wondering what is going on, don't worry, here's a clear explanation. First part : all players receive 2 Relics. Like the three you received at the beginning of Round 1, you can spend them this round. Remember that the Relics you gain with Round 1 matches won't be given to you before Round 3.

        Second part : Whether you win or not, if you Target a slot and are the only one to target it, you gain 1 Relic. If both of your Targets fits this condition, that's 3 Relics for you.

        Third part : For example, the picks "A1 B2 C3 D4" and "A1 B2 C4 D3" have 2 matching picks (A1 and B2). What I'll do is :
          Calculate the number of matches between your picks and each one from Round 1 (all are gathered in the anonymous table below)Gather the numbers, take the maximum M10 minus M is the number of Relics you'll gain if you win. If it is negative, you gain no Relics.
        TL;DR version : do something radically different from everyone in last round and you'll get plenty of Relics.
          A11 B8 C5 D4 E10 F9 G3 H12 I1 J6 K7 L2A1 B12 C2 D7 E4 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K6 L3A11 B5 C7 D4 E1 F9 G2 H3 I12 J6 K10 L8A1 B5 C6 D3 E7 F11 G2 H8 I12 J4 K10 L9A6 B8 C12 D9 E3 F5 G2 H11 I7 J1 K4 L10A6 B4 C2 D7 E3 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K12 L1A12 B9 C11 D3 E1 F5 G8 H10 I7 J2 K4 L6A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F2 G1 H7 I4 J9 K5 L8A2 B3 C10 D5 E1 F11 G9 H8 I12 J6 K7 L4A12 B8 C2 D7 E6 F1 G9 H4 I3 J11 K5 L10A1 B9 C2 D6 E4 F7 G8 H3 I12 J11 K5 L10A2 B5 C10 D6 E7 F11 G3 H8 I12 J4 K1 L9A7 B12 C1 D6 E9 F5 G11 H10 I8 J2 K4 L3A6 B12 C3 D9 E8 F5 G11 H10 I7 J1 K4 L2A12 B8 C6 D9 E1 F5 G7 H11 I3 J2 K4 L10A1 B5 C9 D3 E8 F7 G2 H10 I12 J11 K6 L4A12 B5 C9 D3 E6 F11 G7 H8 I2 J4 K1 L10A11 B9 C2 D7 E10 F5 G3 H12 I1 J6 K4 L8A1 B12 C5 D6 E4 F7 G11 H10 I8 J2 K9 L3A12 B8 C7 D11 E6 F5 G3 H10 I9 J1 K4 L2A11 B8 C7 D5 E10 F9 G2 H1 I3 J6 K4 L12A12 B6 C2 D5 E8 F9 G4 H10 I11 J1 K7 L3A11 B8 C6 D4 E10 F9 G1 H12 I2 J3 K7 L5A12 B8 C3 D6 E7 F5 G9 H11 I10 J1 K4 L2A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F7 G9 H8 I2 J1 K5 L4A12 B9 C11 D6 E8 F5 G2 H7 I3 J1 K4 L10
        Your picks : A1 B2 C3 D4 E5 F6 G7 H8 I9 J10 K11 L12
          A11 B8 C5
        D4 E10 F9 G3 H12 I1 J6 K7 L2A1 B12 C2 D7 E4 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K6 L3A11 B5 C7 D4 E1 F9 G2 H3 I12 J6 K10 L8A1 B5 C6 D3 E7 F11 G2 H8 I12 J4 K10 L9A6 B8 C12 D9 E3 F5 G2 H11 I7 J1 K4 L10A6 B4 C2 D7 E3 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K12 L1A12 B9 C11 D3 E1 F5 G8 H10 I7 J2 K4 L6A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F2 G1 H7 I4 J9 K5 L8A2 B3 C10 D5 E1 F11 G9 H8 I12 J6 K7 L4A12 B8 C2 D7 E6 F1 G9 H4 I3 J11 K5 L10A1 B9 C2 D6 E4 F7 G8 H3 I12 J11 K5 L10A2 B5 C10 D6 E7 F11 G3 H8 I12 J4 K1 L9A7 B12 C1 D6 E9 F5 G11 H10 I8 J2 K4 L3A6 B12 C3 D9 E8 F5 G11 H10 I7 J1 K4 L2A12 B8 C6 D9 E1 F5 G7 H11 I3 J2 K4 L10A1 B5 C9 D3 E8 F7 G2 H10 I12 J11 K6 L4A12 B5 C9 D3 E6 F11 G7 H8 I2 J4 K1 L10A11 B9 C2 D7 E10 F5 G3 H12 I1 J6 K4 L8A1 B12 C5 D6 E4 F7 G11 H10 I8 J2 K9 L3A12 B8 C7 D11 E6 F5 G3 H10 I9 J1 K4 L2A11 B8 C7 D5 E10 F9 G2 H1 I3 J6 K4 L12A12 B6 C2 D5 E8 F9 G4 H10 I11 J1 K7 L3A11 B8 C6 D4 E10 F9 G1 H12 I2 J3 K7 L5A12 B8 C3 D6 E7 F5 G9 H11 I10 J1 K4 L2A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F7 G9 H8 I2 J1 K5 L4A12 B9 C11 D6 E8 F5 G2 H7 I3 J1 K4 L10[/list]
        I bolded when the slots match.
        Maximum matches : 2
        Relics gained upon win : 10 - 2 = 8

        Here's a reminder of the slot picking and deckbuilding rules :
          No 2 picks in the same row or column
        You can't pick slots you picked last roundYou can use 3 upped cards in all your decks for each Relic you spend (remember, you have 3 of them from the start)Any size, any mark, any Pillars and PendulumsCards from the slots you have chosen (not necessarily all), any number of copies of themDouble-check your picks : once you sent me valid ones, you can't change them.[/list]
        Matchups
        1chase1997vs.Terroking
        FuryGhostvs.ddevans96
        Badokvs.Kakerlake
        kevkev60614vs.ralouf1
        mrpapervs.agentflare
        Jockovs.Cheesy111
        Vinerozvs.Odii Odsen
        Absolvs.Onizuka
        Helstonvs.blackknight280
        Little Lordvs.bogtro
        Bonestormvs.annamall
        Valyok26vs.xdude
        ji412jovs.drolly
        calindu221vs.majofa
        The Mormegilvs.UTAlan
        RootRangervs.NikaZaslavsky
        Grid
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        Text-only Grid
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        1Bone DragonParasiteProcrastinationGravity PullParallel UniverseMiracleDragonflyThunderstormGravity ShieldDeflagrationPegasusPlague
        2Azure DragonAntlionRage PotionPulverizerSilenceMaxwell's DemonHorned FrogLobotomizerHopeMomentumChimeraShockwave
        3AntimatterTitanium ShieldGraviton MercenaryFirefly QueenDaggerFreezeAccelerationPandemoniumCatapultAsh EaterFire SpiritDevonian Dragon
        4AbominationPrecognitionRustlerDrain LifeMummySky BlitzImmolationBlue CrawlerLiquid ShadowDruidic StaffNovaWings
        5OtyughAdrenalineVoodoo DollPhoenixEarthquakeGraboidHammerEmpathic BondForest ScorpionFloodingArctic SquidPhoton
        6Chaos SeedSparkUnstable GasSkull ShieldIce BoltTitanFallen ElfArmagioMindgateFractalFlesh SpiderIce Shield
        7Soul CatcherColossal DragonQuintessenceFire ShieldEmerald DragonPoisonCockatriceRain of FireSundialStone SkinCloakFirefly
        8Reflective ShieldVampire StilettoBasilisk's BloodSapphire ChargerFog ShieldAflatoxinMitosisOwl's EyeGhost of the PastDusk MantleHoly LightBlack Dragon
        9AnubisStealLuciferineShriekerVultureMinor VampireFire BoltPhase DragonDeja VuNymph's TearsSolar ShieldDeathstalker
        10Emerald ShieldSchrodinger's CatMind FlayerPurple DragonNightfallShort BowIce DragonReverse TimeImmortalToadfishHealChrysaora
        11DevourerSteam MachineLava GolemShieldBone WallFlying WeaponDune ScorpionLightningGargoyleSanctuaryGolden DragonGnome Rider
        12Forest SpiritEternityTridentGraviton Fire EaterSkeletonMutationFate EggCrusaderCarapace ShieldBoneyardPlate ArmorEnchant Artifact
        A
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        1Bone DragonParasiteProcrastinationGravity PullParallel UniverseMiracleDragonflyThunderstormGravity ShieldDeflagrationPegasusPlague
        2Azure DragonAntlionRage PotionPulverizerSilenceMaxwell's DemonHorned FrogLobotomizerHopeMomentumChimeraShockwave
        3AntimatterTitanium ShieldGraviton MercenaryFirefly QueenDaggerFreezeAccelerationPandemoniumCatapultAsh EaterFire SpiritDevonian Dragon
        4AbominationPrecognitionRustlerDrain LifeMummySky BlitzImmolationBlue CrawlerLiquid ShadowDruidic StaffNovaWings
        5OtyughAdrenalineVoodoo DollPhoenixEarthquakeGraboidHammerEmpathic BondForest ScorpionFloodingArctic SquidPhoton
        6Chaos SeedSparkUnstable GasSkull ShieldIce BoltTitanFallen ElfArmagioMindgateFractalFlesh SpiderIce Shield
        7Soul CatcherColossal DragonQuintessenceFire ShieldEmerald DragonPoisonCockatriceRain of FireSundialStone SkinCloakFirefly
        8Reflective ShieldVampire StilettoBasilisk's BloodSapphire ChargerFog ShieldAflatoxinMitosisOwl's EyeGhost of the PastDusk MantleHoly LightBlack Dragon
        9AnubisStealLuciferineShriekerVultureMinor VampireFire BoltPhase DragonDeja VuNymph's TearsSolar ShieldDeathstalker
        10Emerald ShieldSchrodinger's CatMind FlayerPurple DragonNightfallShort BowIce DragonReverse TimeImmortalToadfishHealChrysaora
        11DevourerSteam MachineLava GolemShieldBone WallFlying WeaponDune ScorpionLightningGargoyleSanctuaryGolden DragonGnome Rider
        12Forest SpiritEternityTridentGraviton Fire EaterSkeletonMutationFate EggCrusaderCarapace ShieldBoneyardPlate ArmorEnchant Artifact
        [/list]
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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459850#msg459850
        « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 08:57:28 pm »
        So this 'distance' isn't actually a distance at all? It's really just how many different picks you select this round compared to last round?

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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459852#msg459852
        « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 09:02:22 pm »
        So this 'distance' isn't actually a distance at all? It's really just how many different picks you select this round compared to last round?
        Ack. I guess you are right. :P

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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459856#msg459856
        « Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 09:10:09 pm »
        So this 'distance' isn't actually a distance at all? It's really just how many different picks you select this round compared to last round?
        Exactly, it's not a "graphical" distance. I'll put one or two examples to illustrate the process.
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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459858#msg459858
        « Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 09:13:27 pm »
        So this 'distance' isn't actually a distance at all? It's really just how many different picks you select this round compared to last round?
        Exactly, it's not a "graphical" distance. I'll put one or two examples to illustrate the process.
        Honestly, I'd just completely get rid of the word 'distance'. It's very confusing, as it makes people start counting the spaces between their picks.

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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459866#msg459866
        « Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 09:31:24 pm »
        Indeed... I figured out that the "matches" definition is better. I'll reformulate that in the next minutes.

        I made this round event waaaay too obscure :/
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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459872#msg459872
        « Reply #6 on: February 13, 2012, 09:45:14 pm »
        I reformulated. No more distance, just matches. I added an example, theorically it's way clearer now :)
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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459875#msg459875
        « Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 09:47:23 pm »
        ooooooohhhh... it's everyone's picks. No longer confused. :D

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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459884#msg459884
        « Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 09:58:35 pm »
        Calculate the number of matches between your picks and each one from Round 1 (all are gathered in the anonymous table below)
        Gather the numbers, take the maximum M
        10 minus M is the number of Relics you'll gain if you win. If it is negative, you gain no Relics.

        TL;DR version : do something radically different from everyone in last round and you'll get plenty of Relics.

        Spoiler for List of last round picks:
        A11 B8 C5 D4 E10 F9 G3 H12 I1 J6 K7 L2
        A1 B12 C2 D7 E4 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K6 L3
        A11 B5 C7 D4 E1 F9 G2 H3 I12 J6 K10 L8
        A1 B5 C6 D3 E7 F11 G2 H8 I12 J4 K10 L9
        A6 B8 C12 D9 E3 F5 G2 H11 I7 J1 K4 L10
        A6 B4 C2 D7 E3 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K12 L1
        A12 B9 C11 D3 E1 F5 G8 H10 I7 J2 K4 L6
        A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F2 G1 H7 I4 J9 K5 L8
        A2 B3 C10 D5 E1 F11 G9 H8 I12 J6 K7 L4
        A12 B8 C2 D7 E6 F1 G9 H4 I3 J11 K5 L10
        A1 B9 C2 D6 E4 F7 G8 H3 I12 J11 K5 L10
        A2 B5 C10 D6 E7 F11 G3 H8 I12 J4 K1 L9
        A7 B12 C1 D6 E9 F5 G11 H10 I8 J2 K4 L3
        A6 B12 C3 D9 E8 F5 G11 H10 I7 J1 K4 L2
        A12 B8 C6 D9 E1 F5 G7 H11 I3 J2 K4 L10
        A1 B5 C9 D3 E8 F7 G2 H10 I12 J11 K6 L4
        A12 B5 C9 D3 E6 F11 G7 H8 I2 J4 K1 L10
        A11 B9 C2 D7 E10 F5 G3 H12 I1 J6 K4 L8
        A1 B12 C5 D6 E4 F7 G11 H10 I8 J2 K9 L3
        A12 B8 C7 D11 E6 F5 G3 H10 I9 J1 K4 L2
        A11 B8 C7 D5 E10 F9 G2 H1 I3 J6 K4 L12
        A12 B6 C2 D5 E8 F9 G4 H10 I11 J1 K7 L3
        A11 B8 C6 D4 E10 F9 G1 H12 I2 J3 K7 L5
        A12 B8 C3 D6 E7 F5 G9 H11 I10 J1 K4 L2
        A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F7 G9 H8 I2 J1 K5 L4
        A12 B9 C11 D6 E8 F5 G2 H7 I3 J1 K4 L10


        Spoiler for Example 1:
        Your picks : A1 B2 C3 D4 E5 F6 G7 H8 I9 J10 K11 L12

        A11 B8 C5 D4 E10 F9 G3 H12 I1 J6 K7 L2
        A1 B12 C2 D7 E4 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K6 L3
        A11 B5 C7 D4 E1 F9 G2 H3 I12 J6 K10 L8
        A1 B5 C6 D3 E7 F11 G2 H8 I12 J4 K10 L9
        A6 B8 C12 D9 E3 F5 G2 H11 I7 J1 K4 L10
        A6 B4 C2 D7 E3 F5 G9 H10 I8 J11 K12 L1
        A12 B9 C11 D3 E1 F5 G8 H10 I7 J2 K4 L6
        A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F2 G1 H7 I4 J9 K5 L8
        A2 B3 C10 D5 E1 F11 G9 H8 I12 J6 K7 L4
        A12 B8 C2 D7 E6 F1 G9 H4 I3 J11 K5 L10
        A1 B9 C2 D6 E4 F7 G8 H3 I12 J11 K5 L10
        A2 B5 C10 D6 E7 F11 G3 H8 I12 J4 K1 L9
        A7 B12 C1 D6 E9 F5 G11 H10 I8 J2 K4 L3
        A6 B12 C3 D9 E8 F5 G11 H10 I7 J1 K4 L2
        A12 B8 C6 D9 E1 F5 G7 H11 I3 J2 K4 L10
        A1 B5 C9 D3 E8 F7 G2 H10 I12 J11 K6 L4
        A12 B5 C9 D3 E6 F11 G7 H8 I2 J4 K1 L10
        A11 B9 C2 D7 E10 F5 G3 H12 I1 J6 K4 L8
        A1 B12 C5 D6 E4 F7 G11 H10 I8 J2 K9 L3
        A12 B8 C7 D11 E6 F5 G3 H10 I9 J1 K4 L2
        A11 B8 C7 D5 E10 F9 G2 H1 I3 J6 K4 L12
        A12 B6 C2 D5 E8 F9 G4 H10 I11 J1 K7 L3
        A11 B8 C6 D4 E10 F9 G1 H12 I2 J3 K7 L5
        A12 B8 C3 D6 E7 F5 G9 H11 I10 J1 K4 L2
        A3 B11 C6 D10 E12 F7 G9 H8 I2 J1 K5 L4
        A12 B9 C11 D6 E8 F5 G2 H7 I3 J1 K4 L10

        I bolded when the slots match.
        Maximum matches : 2
        Relics gained upon win : 10 - 2 = 8

        from what i understand in this example max matches are h8 (5 matches) from last round. where is my misunderstanding?


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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg459895#msg459895
        « Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 10:16:42 pm »
        Think horizontally. It's each players' picks, not a specific slot.

        The 4th row has 2 matching picks.

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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg461026#msg461026
        « Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 08:22:48 pm »
        Due to the Forums failing this morning, I didn't have time to process picks when I wanted.

        Round 3 won't start before tomorrow, so you have extra time to send your Pikcs and complete your matches.

        Very sorry for the delay :(
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        Re: Grid #2 - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36656.msg461438#msg461438
        « Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 10:14:02 pm »
        Round 3 Grid has been generated. 36 Relics will pop up in the Grid !

        Round 3 thread will be posted when the matchups are generated, tomorrow morning.
        I'll shift Periods 3 & 4 consequently.

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