Round 6 discussion

[trashduke]

OK folks, here are our match ups this round:

Gen. Captain Scibra    propheon
dragonsdemesne    RavingRabbid

I'll do the intel for these guys and post some ideas soon. 

[trashduke]

Time Intel is gathered (please check that thread for all of the details); some analysis:
Way back in round 2 we fought time; they won with:

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52q 52q 52q 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rl 5rl 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 718 718 718 718 718 718 8pk

Because of the Aether voids, they likely still have poison, but they lost with this deck in round 4, they might have kept the bone walls as they should have another poison module from the Aether voids in round 3.  It's not crazy to think they would bring this again vs. us, but they seem to switch up decks more often than not.   

Their vault is still pretty sizable (302), which makes prediction tough.  They have at least: two fractal decks with silences & dim shields, discord/dune scorp, and RoL/Hope; these were all used recently.  They recently lost with a Ghostmare, a dune-scorp-light stall, and a Nova-Grabbow - they lost with a grabby deck in round 4 too, so unless they've been salvaging a lot of them, their grabby supply is small.  They have a good amount of PC (deflags and steals). 
They are also fighting Air, Entropy, and Aether this round, so with light and Earth, we are probably lower-level threats.  They should know that we have a fractal deck, and a DBH at least.  A darkness deck would do well vs. both; maybe they'll bring ghost mare or something like with steals. What would be our best counter to Ghostmare or a darkness duo?

Edit:
Actually given the EC which favors stalls - they should try to get some relics from our match, in which case a Light stall would make sense.... That actually seems more probable to me now that I think about it - they probably have plenty of miracles, sanctuaries (which would block a DBH threat), maybe with the dune scorps too.... How to counter a light stall?

[dragonsdemesne]

Our best counter to a light stall would be fractal chargers, but they also know that's one of our only decks, so they will be ready for it.  We maybe (big maybe) could do it with DBH if we can get amber nymph online fast enough, but with only two in the vault, I wouldn't count on it.  Pulverizer would also be quite deadly against a stall, but we only have two.  However, I doubt very much that they would predict us using pulverizers.

[dragonsdemesne]

I'll build some decks tonight after I look at our opponents decks.  If memory serves, we've got fractal chargers, DBH, hematuite/pulvy duo, darkness duo, and not a lot else.

[dragonsdemesne]

Possible idea for scibra vs time:

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55t 55t 55t 576 576 576 576 593 745 745 745 745 745 748 748 77a 77a 77a 77f 77f 8pm

Pulverizer to mess with stalls,fat creatures to resist CC and hit hard, the lone earthquake to mess the opponent hard when we get it, and if they see it in an early game, they will play around it the whole time, keeping quanta in hand.  Gpulls for CC (with golems/dragons) or to put on own dragon for more defense.  Could maybe fit mercs in here somehow (replace 3 chargers with guards?) to make the gpulls better, and could use 1-2 more in that case, too, but I don't know what to cut.  It's still rushy enough it might be able to beat other rushes, too, and whatever else, win or lose, I guarantee they won't expect this.

More decks later tonight.

[dragonsdemesne]

Fractal chargers is also available; I would use the same deck code we used before.  I don't think we should actually use it, because if I were entropy, they could beat it pretty hard with DBH, which I checked and they still have it.  I think we should bring a darkness duo against entropy.  I'll try to build something good tonight and post it in a bit.

[dragonsdemesne]

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4sl 4sl 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 568 568 576 576 576 576 576 576 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5v1 5v1 745 745 745 745 745 745 7t8 7t9 7t9 8pt

This might be pretty risky, but it basically is assuming that they're going to run DBH.   Steal discords, or at the least scare them into not playing them.  Ambers will be ridiculous if we can steal a discord, but even if we don't, they will help deny quanta that DBH is often really short on.  The deck still has some rush potential as well, so if we get a different matchup, we might still be okay.

[trashduke]

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This might be pretty risky, but it basically is assuming that they're going to run DBH.   Steal discords, or at the least scare them into not playing them.  Ambers will be ridiculous if we can steal a discord, but even if we don't, they will help deny quanta that DBH is often really short on.  The deck still has some rush potential as well, so if we get a different matchup, we might still be okay.

I really like this idea vs. entropy!  nice build and very nice choices with what to include (chargers are great to jump any shields - this looks great). 

In regards to time, I was thinking more that we should really bring Fractal chargers, but I tested your earth duo and it does really well vs. their Rol/hope stall (although miracles are still a bitch).  If they bring Ghostmare, we'd be pretty screwed (but that's the case with Fractal chargers anyway).... I'll load up the sheet with these decks, and if we get any last minute ideas we can swap them out.  Thanks again Dragon.

[trashduke]

Ugh - I forgot that we'd lose so many pillars when we discarded from the Cata-titan deck, this means we have to convert 11 pillars, and some tough choices.

I was thinking to drop:
gargoyle, 3 flying weapons, 3 novas, one steal, one vamp dagger, one gravity pull, and the titan.

This would basically preserves our DBH, our Fractal deck, our limited fire duo, and the two we are sending this round....  If any of these conversions hurt too much, we can drop the fire module and keep 9 of these cards....  That might be the better option, so let me know if you think that would be better (our fire deck hasn't done much for us at all, but now with deflags, maybe it's worth keeping?)

[dragonsdemesne]

I'd really like to keep a couple flying weapons, but if we have to, we can discard them all.  I just thought it would be easier to have a few on hand so that if we run decks with all the discords or all the vamp daggers we can fly a couple of them as well.  I agree with all other choices for sure.

edit: Problem is, I don't know what else to discard in place of them.  Maybe phoenixes?  I dunno.

[dragonsdemesne]

Raving rabbid and I are set up to play in ~22 hours from now.

[trashduke]

Raving rabbid and I are set up to play in ~22 hours from now.

And grats on the win!