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Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg204923#msg204923
« on: November 20, 2010, 02:20:19 am »
SALVAGE 6

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5 freeze, 1 deflag

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4 shockwave, 2 OE

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4 scorpion, 2 pillars





DISCARD 24 (listing the cards we will keep)

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4 discord
8 pillar
2 charger
6 black hole
4 pends

(remaing: 3 armagio, 3 charger)


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3 gravity pillar
2 charger
4 momentum
5 pends
5 reverse time
5 dune scorp

(remaining: 2 merc, 1 momentum, 1 gravity shield, 2 pillar)


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6 pillar
2 charger
2 titan
2 gravity pull
3 gravity pendulum
2 azure dragon
5 wings
2 flying wep

(remaining : 3 charger, 1 OE, 2 air pend, 1 titan)


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4 pillar
3 merc
2 titan
4 gravity pull
4 pends
6 freeze
1 ice shield

(remaining : 3 purify, 2 merc, 1 ice shield)


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4 pillar, 2 oty, 2 pull, 6 eater, 3 deflag, 3 immo, 4 phoenix

remaining: 3 pendulum, 2 immo, 1 phoenix
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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg204946#msg204946
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 03:20:56 am »
So a total of 78 cards lost so far, bringing us to what, 191 cards?  That's six decks.  Discard around which 6 decks we want to bring to the next round.  Honestly, I'm not sure what to do anymore.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg205150#msg205150
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 01:03:04 pm »
So a total of 78 cards lost so far, bringing us to what, 191 cards?  That's six decks.  Discard around which 6 decks we want to bring to the next round.  Honestly, I'm not sure what to do anymore.
All we have to do is to survive so that we do not end up in the last place.

There are some elements which did worse than us, and also there will be team UW feeding us from next round :D
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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg205212#msg205212
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 02:56:26 pm »
we seem to be missing one of the 8 matches

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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg205473#msg205473
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 07:57:05 pm »
we seem to be missing one of the 8 matches
Yup, jumba's deck isn't up there:
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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg206637#msg206637
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 08:51:46 am »
SALVAGE 6

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Not much to choose from here... deflag, freezes, bolts top the "best choices" list

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Shockwaves, EEs, possibly dragons. I think shocks and eyes would be better though

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We could make another poison deck- scorps, adrenaline. Other option would be tears + water pillars/pends, for an attempt at a denial deck with otys.... would work better with more tears though.

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Ugh... Do we even have enough BHs in our vault to make another discord/BH if we salvage 3X discord 3X BH? if so, let's do it, otherwise chargers or pillars/pends. Make this chargers, armagios, and pillars/pends. Discord/BH won't work well with 3 BHs

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This is more difficult. If we pick up the scorps, 4X momentum minimum, with chargers, 5th momentum, shield, and pillars/pends topping the list of "fillers". Otherwise, 4X dunes 2X momentum, so we can still make a dune deck.

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Flying weapons (or pillars/pends), 4 wings, and a pillar or pend (not air), or some chargers and pillars/pends (I'd rather pick up the wings so we can use them in an OE/shock/wings deck and have a flying titan deck, if we can-4 animates still in vault?)

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2 titans, rest pillars. With this deck pretty much gone, we might as well just pick up fire cards from majofa, or go splash with freezes.

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I think we might as well ditch our second fire deck too- pillars and pends here, otys if we for some reason go with the tears from water. (but seriously? two tears isn't really enough, even if it's an option)

let's see pillar count... 41 starting, then - 6-12 from discord/BH, 8-10 from neuro, 3-9 from air, 4 from water, 1-3 from fire, and then + 12 from conversion give us... 15(!)-31 pillars and pends... ugh. No discord/BH, don't take otys, take pillars/pends instead of animates, and pillars/pends instead of titans? That'd give us... what, 29 pillars/pends? Is that enough to make five decks with? (about six pillars/pends per deck... yuck.)

EDIT: *sigh* I'm a moron, forgot to check our pend count- will re-do math.
EDIT2: 15+37=52, 31+37=68. Much more wiggle room. Still no discord/BH (don't have the BH for it), but otys, animates, and titans are still on the table. That gives us somewhere in the ballpark of 55-68 pillars/pends, much more comfortable.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg207391#msg207391
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 03:58:44 am »
It is getting to where there isn't much choice anymore.

We generally have to keep any Gravity cards we can and salvages are pretty straightforward this round.
In terms of what we are keeping, having enough pillars/pendulums is top priority. Keeping damage cards/creatures/Titans is probably second priority. Dune Scorpions are alright to keep. Otherwise perhaps we might wish to keep some Freezes and Wings as the only non damage cards.

Memorystick

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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg209159#msg209159
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2010, 12:43:38 pm »
Okay, I don't want to see another surprise like losing the discord/BH last round, so I'll post my thoughts on what you have.

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4 scorpion, 2 pillars
I'm feeling a bit iffy about the pillars... but I guess it's either those or adrenaline.

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3 gravity pillar
2 charger
4 momentum
5 pends
5 reverse time
5 dune scorp

(remaining: 2 merc, 1 momentum, 1 gravity shield, 2 pillar)
I'm not liking discarding 4/6 momentum, and leaving us with 2 total... but there isn't that much choice here :(

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6 pillar
2 charger
2 titan
2 gravity pull
3 gravity pendulum
2 azure dragon
5 wings
2 flying wep

(remaining : 3 charger, 1 OE, 2 air pend, 1 titan)
I'd rather keep some wings... but I'm not sure what we'd toss instead.

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4 pillar
3 merc
2 titan
4 gravity pull
4 pends
6 freeze
1 ice shield

(remaining : 3 purify, 2 merc, 1 ice shield)
This... IMO, if you're going to keep a card and then convert it (the ice shield and three purifies), why not just take what you were going to convert it into? (unless the penalty has to come from the losing deck, but I don't think that's the case, is it?)

Rest I have no problems with (aside from the entire losing of the discord/BH, but that was a R4 problem)

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Re: Round 4 - Salvage/Discard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15997.msg210047#msg210047
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 05:38:37 pm »
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