Round 4 - Deckbuilding (the official one)

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PLEASE REMEMBER TO CHECK THIS THREAD AGAIN RIGHT BEFORE YOUR BATTLE, SINCE THE DECKS COULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED ANY PRIOR TIME.

Round 4 - Decks

GirlsGeneration vs 3D House of Beef

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Jumbalumba vs Nyma

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3 upgraded card version of my last round deck. Works decently, and it's a one deck where discord can actually help us.


smiley56 vs Dragoon1140 (Lt.)

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Smiley. PLEASE make sure to use the right deck this time.

The only deck aether could use to counter this deck would be fractal phoenix, except it got owned last round by a flying titan pull deck. Let's just hope that they don't go stupid and use the same deck, this time against us.

Or we could always stick with flying titans... dunno...

Phantomfox vs Corrum

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Stall deck. kill/freeze all their creatures, purify the poisons, and kill with the titan. Only problem would be a match with really fast rush deck vs a sucky draw, or fractals...


Napalm Grenade vs Majofa (again?)(yes, again)

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cebra vs Rastafla

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Memorystick vs Xinef (General... again???)(yes, also again...)

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Indrejue vs RavingRabbid

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918273645 skips the round. (Sorry)

[~Napalm]

Let the strategizing/deck building begin.

[~Napalm]

In this round, every loss costs us 24 cards. This means that in order to go positive, we need a minimum of 7 wins. I want gravity to turn around this time, I'm not asking for a 7-1 match, but I want to break even in wins at 4-4 at minimum. We will need to carefully test our decks and make sure they can counter every deck the opponent can throw at us. Lets see some results here.

vs Darkness

Our Blessed Otyugh deck would be a brilliant matchup here. Half of the cards darkness has can't stand up to the might of a 3/6 Otyugh.  Likely our biggest issue here is if the go Aether. They can then fractal Devo's which would eventually become harmful (I can't see them doing that vs Oty's though...) or Quinted Dragons. Altogether that seems like their safest option.

vs Entropy

This is a little bit harder to judge. I think we should settle this one later.  Discord is a big problem. Perhaps an Immolation + Phoenix deck could come in handy here.

vs Aether

Our Discord/BH decks are always an option against Aether Lightning is a big problem. We might get away with our Earth Duo

vs Death

The safest deck here would probably be our water duo. The freezes allow us to stall things if they don't go with a poison deck.

vs Fire

I don't really know what to do here. It seems like the Earth Duo has the greatest chance of success.  Our only answer to Fire Stall is Earthquake, but now that fire is aware of this, they will probably rush us again. In this case we need to have a lot of Creature Control Based on these points, the Earth Duo has the best chance of success, it can defeat a stall quite handily, and it can utilize Plate Armor to stop a rush deck cold.

vs Light

A time duo could be useful here.  Lights best offense against us in all honesty is Blessed Pegasus. The 5 damage stays away from our unbuffed Otyughs and is just under the Gravity Shield that stops everything else they have. They could also run the Phoenix deck, which would spell certain trouble for us.

vs Time

Not sure what to say about this. The Dune Scorpion decks seem popular.

vs Water

Just not AdrenMercs. We've learned our lesson on that one.

How does everybody feel about these conclusions?

[918273645]

For MemoryStick: LOBO!!! (Oh, wait, we have none  )

Nice pic, Napalm. Seems a whole lot more...intimidating.

[Memorystick]

vs Darkness

Our Blessed Otyugh deck would be a brilliant matchup here. Half of the cards darkness has can't stand up to the might of a 3/6 Otyugh.  Likely our biggest issue here is if the go Aether. They can then fractal Devo's which would eventually become harmful (I can't see them doing that vs Oty's though...) or Quinted Dragons. Altogether that seems like their safest option.

You forgot about drain life- otys can't eat anymore.

vs Entropy

This is a little bit harder to judge. I think we should settle this one later.  Discord is a big problem. Perhaps an Immolation + Phoenix deck could come in handy here.

Immo-phoenix-fire eater, I think. Just be careful of BE.

vs Aether

Our Discord/BH decks are always an option against Aether Lightning is a big problem. We might get away with our Earth Duo

My first thoughts are earth duo or neuro deck.

vs Death

The safest deck here would probably be our water duo. The freezes allow us to stall things if they don't go with a poison deck.

Sounds good to me. Another alternative would be discord/BH, but I'm not sure how effective it would be.

vs Fire

I don't really know what to do here. It seems like the Earth Duo has the greatest chance of success.  Our only answer to Fire Stall is Earthquake, but now that fire is aware of this, they will probably rush us again. In this case we need to have a lot of Creature Control Based on these points, the Earth Duo has the best chance of success, it can defeat a stall quite handily, and it can utilize Plate Armor to stop a rush deck cold.

Our worst-case scenario would be a rush with potions... an aether deck, maybe? I'm not sure.

vs Light

A time duo could be useful here.  Lights best offense against us in all honesty is Blessed Pegasus. The 5 damage stays away from our unbuffed Otyughs and is just under the Gravity Shield that stops everything else they have. They could also run the Phoenix deck, which would spell certain trouble for us.

Blessed pegs, blessed dunes, or miracle-deckout. Sundial/RT, with chargers and otys, in my opinion.

vs Time

Not sure what to say about this. The Dune Scorpion decks seem popular.

Dunes with blessings, their death/time duo, perhaps a wings deck, a graboid deck, dim stall with eternity, or a fire deck (fire storm/deflags/rage potion). All in all, very versatile, a water deck would be a good choice here too, as would our own fire deck. Not sure what to chose.

vs Water

Just not AdrenMercs. We've learned our lesson on that one.

Lots of choices here. We'll want to take a deck that uses cards that only run off the mark, in case they still have that mindgate deck. Not sure what to deck to put here either- either fire or discord/BH, maybe a neuro deck.

[Indrejue]

if we do immolation deck against water no pillars then mindgate becomes useless but will fail to their like 10 poison decks

[smiley56]

My thoughts:

vs Darkness

I like blessed otys.  I do see that drain life could be a problem, but I think odds will be in our favor with that match up.  Also, don't put in Titans obviously in case of steal.  Also holy light ftw against darkness.


vs Entropy

i agree with both Memory and Napalm.  The less we rely on pillars the better.


vs Aether

I think earth is the best route.  I completely destroyed them last time with a Discord deck.  DESTROYED (second game he didn't get to play a single card the whole game).  So they have no choice but to prepare for that.  Maybe aether/darkness with steal.  So if we play earth, hope they rely on pillars for darkness quanta and destroy them asap.  Or if their mark is darkness, destroy aether pillars to prevent fractal.  Again, be careful with Titans since they might run darkness.


vs Death

I like water.  Agreed.  And we haven't played a deck with water very often so hopefully it will catch them off-guard.


vs Fire

I really like Aether deck here.  Lightnings are nice because all their creatures have low hp, and quints can keep our's from dying.  Quint'd chargers ftw


vs Light

Time deck.


vs Time

I think we could go with an Air/Titan deck.  Wings is always good.  Flying titans are really effective against any stall deck.  Thats the best I can think of haha


vs Water

Discord/BE.  Water is heavily dependent on its quanta most of the time and depend on playing long matches to build up.  Discord will stop them here I think.

[PhantomFox]

Keep in mind that in the last war, when we took a blessed otyugh deck against Darkness, they countered it with Antimatters and other things.

[Indrejue]

i think this is the match for GG to use upped flying weapon with a third element.  remember animate weapon does not use any particular quanta so if we wanted to go aether gravity and fly the titans we could and would still be a duo deck.  she can also do flying discord BH

[Jumbalumba]

We should try to get decks we feel good about first and then go to latter ones. It'll be difficult to try to balance everything at once.

So firstly, I feel Light against Darkness is good. Earth/Entropy against Aether. Water against Death. Some of these may be obviously but we have little variety available and these really are the best we can do.

Against Water: Water will be slow with their attack. I think, other than Adrenaline Mercs, a stallish deck that relies on Titan to kill would work nicely.

Light: Light would go Miracle or Fire imo. I would say both would be best dealt with with quanta denial; Earth over Entropy because Discord<Deflagration.

Fire: Aether could work; Lightning and Otyugh to kill creatures. If they go for a Bolt deck though it could be troublesome.

Entropy: Discord/BH. It would need to be fast enough to get 3rd turn Discord and 2nd turn Black Hole. I like the idea of Fire with Immolation though. Problem is we need stuff to immolate and we don't have cheap creatures.

I fear Time would be too difficult to give too much consideration of a deck with.

[~Napalm]

Hmmm. I really wish we still had quints.

[GG]

I am back. 2 days of full real life + a bit of romance.

I'll be spending like 2 hours tonight building decks based on your advices and also somehow try to fit everything in the vault. This will be hard.