Round 3 - Salvage/Discard

[GG]

I'm not going to write any salvages/discards because at this point, we need to make the decks first then determine what to salvage and discards. Our vault size after round 3 is 268, meaning only 8 members will fight. 8*30 = 240, so we'll have a maximum of only 28 cards unused.

Also, I need to tell you that I asked for 6 more penalty so that our vault can be less than 270, meaning only 8 players fight. It's better than having 274 card vault and 9 people fighting, therefore showing our entire vault.

(Honestly, something's wrong with this system)



Salvages (6)

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk
2 immolation, 4 pheonix

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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt
1 blessing, 3 dune scorpions, 2 reverse time

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4ve 4vf 4vf 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vo 5od 5of 5of 5og 5oi 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu
2 air pendulum, 2 azure dragon, 1 OE, 1 abom




Discards (18)

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 58t 58t 58t 58t 58v 58v 593 593 593 593 593 593
4 plate armor, 2 pulverizer, 6 earthquake, 4 otyugh, 2 gravity pillar

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up
6 devourer, 3 steal, 2 gravity shield, 7 gravity pillar

I'm sorry everyone, but deck has to go, just like the first life I lost in the 12 lives event was .

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4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55m 55m 55m 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 576 576 576 576
3 armagio, 6 black hole, 4 discord, 2 pendulums, 3 pillars

Byebye discord deck #2.

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55p 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 576 576 576 576 576 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt
3 reverse time, 4 dune scorpion, 1 gravity shield, 5 momentum, 5 pillars

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 55k 55k 55k 55k 55m 55m 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 576 576 576 576
2 bone pillar, 5 poison, 2 arsenic, 6 deathstalker, 3 gravity pillar

Byebye my favorite deck

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55k 55k 55k 55m 55m 55m 55s 55s 55s 55t 55t 55v 55v 55v 576 576 576 576 576 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621
2 aether pillar, 2 quint, 2 gravity pull, 3 gravity pillar, 3 black hole, 1 dim shield, 3 armagio, 1 titan, 1 gravity pendulum



12 card penalty (6 for smiley failing to use his deck, 6 (intentional) for editing deckbuilding post after deadline)

2 plate armor, 7 poison, 2 bone pillar, 1 wings

[~Napalm]

Oh btw. You need to set up the position order for this match. IE, right now Indrejue will not play next round. Is that who you want to be sitting out next round?

[GG]

You misread something.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13830.0.html

918 will not play this round.

[PhantomFox]

Honestly, I'd like to salvage some heavy hitters from other elements, but we don't have the quanta to support them.  Having 4 damage chargers be our best offense is killing us.  Honestly, I don't see salvaging Miracles unless we plan to do a light heavy deck, and that 'aint happening.  More dune scorps so we can run two perhaps? 

[smiley56]

Sorry about the mix-up.  I thought I was supposed to use the discord deck...did it get switched at some point?  I feel like a retard :/  if you want me to sit out, I would definately understand (although I dont want to!)

[~Napalm]

Nobody can be perfect, and it ends up working in our favor anyway

I hate to say it, but this round is going to require a lot of time from all of you. Because we have to have 8 decks, but only 28 maximum unused cards, we need to test every deck we're going to be using and discard accordingly. This is an all hands on deck round. Any extra time you can devote to the deckbuilding will be greatly appreciated.

Also. We cannot give up on our Discord/BH decks. People are scared of them more than any other deck we have.

I'll keep a list of decks we need to discard towards here.

1. Discord/BH
2. Discord/BH
3. Blessed Otyugh
4. Earth Duo (This is our greatest ally against Fire Stall)
5. Water Duo (This worked great for us last round)
6. Fire Duo
7. Fire Duo #2?
8. Dune Scorps

I don't think deathstalkers are getting us anywhere. The time duo is simply a better choice because it forces our oponnents to watch what cards they play and it has built in CC. What's not to like. We could possibly grab a second one of these.

The AdrenMercs deck seems powerful, but incredibly situational.

The Darkness deck lacks damage so severely that it could only be useful to Girls because she can upgrade all the Chargers.

Aether Stalling doesn't seem to work for us either, but it can be part of the 28.

Salvaging:
I'm beginning to think 4x Phoenix, 2x Deflag. This will allow us to run 2 Fire duos if we needed to, the deflags are to ensure that both can take PC, but immolation could also be taken for quanta generation. I don't think we want golems because 1, we'd need earth quanta to make them useful, and 2, they are much easier to kill than a phoenix.

I'm thinking we want to upgrade out Blessed Oty deck with at least 1x Blessing. Miracle is up in the air, but it would greatly improve our chances of success. The other option is RT + Scorps, but we'd only be able to play 4 scorps in one of the decks, so this may not be the ideal choice. It's also important to note that GG can use upped sundials in a blessed oty deck.

take AM at your own risk. It's quite costly to be used in a Discord/BH deck, but there really isn't much we can use in chum's deck. I'm honestly not sure what to take. There's always the possibility of going for a 3rd Discord/BH deck, but I think it may be too late for that already.

[Memorystick]

My first thoughts on salvages/discards:

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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rtMiracles. 3 miracle, 3 light pillar?

I think we should definitely take some blessings here. Split between miracles, dunes, and dials for the other cards.

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4ve 4vf 4vf 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vo 5od 5of 5of 5og 5oi 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu3 Antimatter, 2 air pendulum, 1 OE

I dunno about AM or the pends. The seeds would give us some CC in a discord/BH, and can be used by jumba and girls to buff otys or whatever, while BE is fantastic with armagio (but very -intensive) For the rest, I feel that discord, OE, flying weapon, and hax shield are our best choices.

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 58t 58t 58t 58t 58v 58v 593 593 593 593 593 593

KEEP 16: 4X plates, 2X pulvies, 3X otys, 2X chargers, 2X shields, 3X EQ

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up

KEEP 12: 4X chargers, 3X otys, 3X steals, 2X shields OR 5X chargers, 4X otys, 2X shields, 1X something else

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4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55m 55m 55m 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 576 576 576 576

KEEP 12: 5-6X BH, 2-3Xdiscord, 1X armagio, 3X charger

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55p 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 576 576 576 576 576 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt

KEEP 12: 3X dunes, 5X momentum, 2X RT, 2X chargers

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 55k 55k 55k 55k 55m 55m 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 576 576 576 576

KEEP 12: 2X arsenic, 3X momentum, 2X armagio, 3X gravity pend, 2X gravity pillar

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55k 55k 55k 55m 55m 55m 55s 55s 55s 55t 55t 55v 55v 55v 576 576 576 576 576 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621

KEEP 18: 1X titan, 4X lightning, 5X pends, 2X armagio, 2X BH, and either 2X quint, 2X shield or 4X shield


Not sure what to discard for our penalties- also, nice move there, very clever. I was wondering what you were up to, and I'm sure the others will be too- until they notice we can only field 8 decks

Sorry about the mix-up.  I thought I was supposed to use the discord deck...did it get switched at some point?  I feel like a retard :/  if you want me to sit out, I would definately understand (although I dont want to!)

Ironically, your screw-up helped us out, since we've got a little more secrecy with the 12-card penalty (adding the two penalties) Accidental assistance ftw?

EDIT: Looks like someone's onto us:

[09:57:27] catalyzeme [»] Memorystick: i think girls intentionally wanted the second penalty
[09:57:43] catalyzeme [»] Memorystick: costs you like 6 cards to not have to playa 9th deck next round, i think
[09:58:32] Memorystick [»] catalyzeme: really? >_> I had no idea
[09:59:00] catalyzeme [»] Memorystick: yeah, she was on chat earlier like, searching for another penalty
[09:59:02] catalyzeme [»] Memorystick: she found that

[GG]

Memory you do realize that after your discard selection, we'll literally have enough pillars/pends for one player, right?

We'll need to throw out a lot of stuff and do conversion as much as possible to barely fit the line, which is the reason why we have to build the decks first then talk about discarding.

[~Napalm]

Before we go any further I'd like some serious feedback on my analysis of where we're at. I'm looking into making decks for all of it as we speak and will hopefully have a theoretical discard set later today.

[GG]

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