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Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg195460#msg195460
« on: November 07, 2010, 01:38:50 am »
Round 3 - Decks

GirlsGeneration vs :air chum3
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Jumbalumba vs :time valuka
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918273645 vs :time Xinef (Master)
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@918 notice that this is a stall deck. Wait until he accumulates 10+ damage, then start chaining shields. The quintessences could be used both offensively and defensively; if you can notice that he has 1~2 creatures in the entire deck, quint those creatures and stop him from rewinding his creatures for survival.

However, the deck should be able to beat him before deckout with the titan as main source of damage.


Napalm grenade vs :fire majofa
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cebra vs :fire Acsabi44
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Memorystick vs :light Salamence_747
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Phantomfox vs :earth TimerClock14
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smiley56 vs :entropy SnoWeb
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Indrejue vs :water Wavedash
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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg195466#msg195466
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 01:45:57 am »
Discord/BH decks gave us two wins during the last two rounds. Starting from this round, we will use two discord/BH decks. I personally feel like using one of them against entropy as a surprise. Discord would be the last thing they would be expecting. Another one would probably go to 918, although i'm not confident about his ability to play that deck.

We're facing two :fire members. They're likely to go with firebolt decks or mono, so :water and :light decks should suffice... or maybe wings or dim shield stall.

I suggest earthquake deck for light match. This'll prevent them from trying to stall or playing stuff.

dune scorp/RT deck for a likely creature spam deck... maybe for :earth, since they seem to use nova-fueled decks a lot?


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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg195490#msg195490
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 02:24:25 am »
Also Girls. I have 2 Amber Nymphs now. At any possible turn, I need to make use of them.
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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg195499#msg195499
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 02:49:45 am »
Also Girls. I have 2 Amber Nymphs now. At any possible turn, I need to make use of them.
2 weeks or so ago you didn't have any. Y0U 1337 HAXXOR!!!

But, seriously, I'm screwed.

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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg195509#msg195509
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 03:19:14 am »
After some thought, Fire seems weak against quanta denial, as it cripples both Farenheit, Immolation, and Firebolts.  Might want to consider Grav/Dark against them.

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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg195632#msg195632
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 07:16:30 am »
I'm thinking that pretty much ANYTHING is weak to quanta denial. Which is why I've begun to consider running 2 Discord/BH's decks each round and at least 1 Gravity/Earth. Everybody is trying to rush us because they know we have weak attackers, so what if we halt their ability to rush? That would be my proposal, I havn't thought about what decks vs what opponents yet, but I think we need to seriously consider denial on all sides.
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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg196420#msg196420
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 06:17:12 am »
ok it is late here but one of few times i can get on my computer is on the fritz.  so looking at my opponent water most of their decks are Creature control/poison  all in same deck so i might want to do a purification deck or flying titan with otys to eat up the squids or a third option i have no idea of.

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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg196459#msg196459
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 07:59:50 am »
Just going to post a few decks that I've been testing.
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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55r 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 58t 58t 58t 58t 58v 58v 58v 593 593 593 593 593 593This is more of a stall deck, but the 3 Chargers generally allow you to kill them, unless they have a lot of healing, but that's what EQ and Pulvy are for, to prevent the healing. I'm not so sure about picking up the Golems after testing with earth. They just didn't seem to help as much as stalling does.
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4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 568 568 576 576 576 576Geez it's fun to lock people down with an Amber Nymph. I totally want to use this deck whenever possible. We definitely need to be running 2 of these every round.
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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55q 55q 55r 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 576 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lg 5lg 5li 5liI suppose this is another attempt at this deck for vsing Fire.
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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55m 55m 55n 55n 55n 55s 55s 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5upI'm still skeptical about the playability of our darkness duo as it lacks damage, big time, but this is what I have so far. I'm noticing that our Charger's are gone at this point. So yeah, not good.
This makes 5 deck ideas, 4 others would be Chargerless. 2x Poison decks. 1x AdrenMercs apparently, and 1x Flying Titan is about all we have left. Feel free to tweak at your hearts desire, this is just what I've spent about 2 hrs testing. More intensive tweaking is needed.

EDIT: Running 2x Discord Decks Means we only need 3 more decks actually, assuming all of these ideas are tweaked, optimized, and put to use. 
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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg196542#msg196542
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 12:28:51 pm »
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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg197066#msg197066
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 02:21:42 am »
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I like a deck like this for facing Entropy.  Zeru used a similar deck last round against us last round and I tweaked it for our use.  Any thoughts?

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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg197148#msg197148
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 05:41:28 am »
I don't think that's bad but the problem with that is damage output and Entropy can make it worse with Antimatter. Entropy doesn't have good offence either but it's still better than Gravity's. Like someone said earlier, everybody is just rushing us; we can use discord and BH to stop their rush but, being that they have a rush deck, they would have a good amount of firepower still just that it would be slower to come out. The deck Napalm tested has higher fire power but your's has gravity pull to stop their offence. Can't say which one would definitely work better but Chargers are probably better.

I think the only other option vsing Entropy is Earth. Their important cards, dragon, antimatter, are high cost so killing quanta sources is useful.

As for time, they do seem to like Graboids. Aether is a great counter to most of their decks and it seems they were testing against that? They do have poison decks though.

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Re: Round 3 - Deckbuilding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15287.msg197169#msg197169
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 06:37:58 am »
Good idea Jumba!


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I also really like this deck.  I think it could be effective against Entropy.  If anything, it could use more pendulums and less pillars.  Any ideas/suggestions/comments are of course welcome!   :)

 

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