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Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg310899#msg310899
« on: April 13, 2011, 07:28:47 am »
These are the matchups for round 2.

:gravity GirlsGeneration   :death icecoldbro
:gravity jmdt                    :air Amilir (Lieutenant)
:gravity TStar                   :entropy Shantu
:gravity malebolgia113    :light RootRanger
:gravity thenewguy         :life promwarm
:gravity einharjar145       :darkness Jaymanfu
:gravity killsdazombies    :time drogana
:gravity TheIdioticIdiot     :fire Legit

Event Card:  If you use a mono deck in your element Salvage 12 cards instead of 6.
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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg310914#msg310914
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 07:57:10 am »
First thing that jumps out at me is whatever I say don't listen since Round 1 was an epic disaster on my part.
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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg310926#msg310926
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 08:26:32 am »
ooo :fire

hm... I wonder who should use a mono deck, it could be what we need for a comeback

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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg310934#msg310934
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 09:11:43 am »
Our cata (some of them) decks can handle certain ones....(for a full mono deck) if we wan to make use of the event card.

Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg310944#msg310944
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 09:44:20 am »
Our cata (some of them) decks can handle certain ones....(for a full mono deck) if we wan to make use of the event card.
I think promworm (life) is the most vulnerable to this

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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311030#msg311030
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 01:55:24 pm »
We're not even considering the use of the event card. Even catapult decks require flying titans to be really effective, and that's the closest we can ever get to mono.

Although.... what if I decide to go mono accelerated chargers...?
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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311111#msg311111
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 04:19:20 pm »
Our cata (some of them) decks can handle certain ones....(for a full mono deck) if we wan to make use of the event card.
I think promworm (life) is the most vulnerable to this
A simple adrenaline frog mono life rush would obliterate any mono deck we could put out there.  I think we need to worry about just winning instead of trying to get cute with inventing mono decks.  There's a reason you never see people PvP with unupped mono gravity.
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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311200#msg311200
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 07:57:37 pm »
I say screw the event card. Duos/trios/rainbows > mono decks in most cases.


I mean honestly, how many teams REALLY NEED 6 extra cards this early? Sure, it would be nice, but not needed. I feel we need to focus on WINNING and not the event card. Although, with a weak vault people might think we will try to use the event card to our advantage <--- we need to take advantage of this and use it to our advantage. The only elements that could stand a strong mono deck are entropy, fire, darkness and death. We have a couple of matches using just 1 of those elements, so be careful, but don't plan around it. Look, the event card has screwed us into a last place vault (besides underworld) so we need to ultilize our some effective counters/all around decks and just focus on how to play.

We got counter-pwned R1, so lets get so payback and focus this R2. I'll think about some decks viable to using this and get back to you guys after some others settle on the discard.


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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311386#msg311386
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 11:51:42 pm »
Here's my thoughts on these matchups:

:gravity GirlsGeneration   :death icecoldbro
**  Good news is :death didn't use a single deck with RT during Round 1 so I'm hoping that means they don't have any that uses it.  The bad news is :earth lost to them while using a deck with 5 RT's so they might be able to throw together a deck around them.  I'm hoping instead they'll chose to salvage Graboids or EQs instead since those are generally more useful.  We already know in a speed vs. speed matchup we'll lose so our best bet might be to try and come up with some type of control deck.  They have 4 Generals and 2 Lieutenants to fight this round so they will definitely be stretched thing.  Another thing to consider is that they did roll 2 mono decks in Round 1.  All that said, I am betting they go with speed again.  They didn't use the popular speed poison death/water deck in Round 1, so I'm guessing it'll pop up at some point this round.  Right now they have us set up to play a stall after going with a rush deck so a Poison deck like that would be and excellent counter for any stall we played.  My gut says we should play a poison counter deck here.

:gravity jmdt                    :air Amilir (Lieutenant)
They picked a pretty weird deck against us and just got smoked my momentum.  Amilir is definitely not going to want to lose twice to us for the same reason.  I don't expect them to use any deck that relies on Wings to stall.  That Dragon/UG deck or their Dragon/EQ deck would be my guesses.  Either way we I'm expecting a quanta-heavy deck (Dragons or UG).  This might be the perfect place to roll out a tweaked version of Discord/BH or to use the AM stall.  If we build a nice Pulvy/EQ deck it would work great here too I think.

:gravity TStar                   :entropy Shantu
Right off the bat I'd rule out any type of bolt stall deck from these guys.  It's just too big of a risk to take when we have no many creatures packing momentum.  I wouldn't be shocked to see :entropy try to roll a mono here against us.  My best guess is they will follow in every elses footsteps and use their RT deck that they rolled against :fire on us.  I know this might sound crazy but unupped fractal chargers might be awesome here.  For a change being 4|5 will be a huge boost to us because it'll take Maxwell's out out of the equation as CC if they wanted to risk using it.  They might shock me but Zeru and crew aren't stupid and they have to have noticed how badly teams used RT to clobber us in Round 1.

:gravity malebolgia113    :light RootRanger
I was expecting them to use Dune Scorps on us the first time around.  After seeing everyone kick our butt I doubly expect it now.  It's the only deck they have using RT/Eternity.  These guys will grab onto a proven method to win I expect.  Cat Titans might work well here since we can just wait to fly them for when we need them to launch and theoretically it should be able to outrace Dunes.  As an added bonus that deck really doesn't require us to play many cards and would make their RTs useless.

:gravity thenewguy         :life promwarm
No RTs decks yet and I'm not seeing lots of CC used by them.  Better yet only 2 of their decks used PC and 2 used Momentum.  I have to think they'll use a rush on us, or some sort of acceleration deck.  Setting up a Phase Shield stall deck could be perfect here, or even Accelerated Dragon Blitz.  They didn't have any flying critters really in their decks so that should be a huge bonus plus if we roll Wings.

:gravity einharjar145       :darkness Jaymanfu
If I was them I'd use the same deck again and make us beat it lol.  We showed a lot of catapult and dragon decks in Round 1 so Wings decks are probably out for him.  I'm betting they roll the EQ/Devourer deck on us to try and starve us out of quanta.  If you think they'll go GotP/Nightmare again roll the other Cat Titan deck.  My gut tells me Novagrabby is the ticket here to offset the EQ/Dev deck I'm guessing will come.

:gravity killsdazombies    :time drogana
7 of 8 decks they used had RT or Eternity (or both) in Round 1.  Anyone wanna bet we'll see it again?  I don't care what version they use I'd roll Cat Titans or Dragon Blitz and hope for the best.  A quinted Chimera would look really nice right about now too.....

:gravity TheIdioticIdiot     :fire Legit
Nap and majofa are too smart for their own good.  Roll the same exact deck and let them counter themselves by using a fire stall or immo rush or something lmao.  They have to think that GG will be wanting revenge and we'll be too smart to never make the same mistake twice.  I mean who the heck doubles up in War, right?  :)
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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311413#msg311413
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 12:19:11 am »
idk about my dolls..

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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311450#msg311450
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 01:17:42 am »
idk about my dolls..
Then think up something to counter an immorush because that's what they'll roll and I don't think they'll use RT on use twice because they'll expect us to be ready for it.
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Re: Round 2 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24357.msg311459#msg311459
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 01:26:59 am »
idk about my dolls..
Then think up something to counter an immorush because that's what they'll roll and I don't think they'll use RT on use twice because they'll expect us to be ready for it.
biggest counter to immorush is RT, and we don't have that many...
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