Round 2 - Strategy

[~Napalm]

, (Lieutenant vs our Master), (vs our Lieutenant), (Master),  , (Master), , , (Master)
That is the list of our opponents. We get the joy of facing 3 masters this time.

We'll need to do some thinking about individual elements and what they will expect us to pack. And then as my man Mem likes to say, create a "Counter to the Counter"

Discuss.

[PhantomFox]

I'm trying not to fall into the Vizinni Gambit with a "I know that you know that I know..." style of loop.  Posted my thinking in the deckbuilding topic

[Memorystick]

I'm trying not to fall into the Vizinni Gambit with a "I know that you know that I know..." style of loop.  Posted my thinking in the deckbuilding topic

Problem is, if we don't think that way, then they'll have the advantage, since they're out-thinking us. So, either we drive ourselves crazy, or let them have the upper hand

[smiley56]

For my match against    I like discord/BH (as PF suggested in the other thread, great minds think alike )  Maybe for damage just discord and chargers?  I wish we had some other Entropy cards to splash in  :/  maybe we can salvage some later (AM, maxwell's, etc).  Also, I feel like we are low on damage-dealing cards.  Am I the only one?

[~Napalm]

Down to business.

I'm first going to address my match. I'm vsing Life. And as stated before, I think they learned their lesson with fractaling. As a result they have 1 of 3 options. (that we can think of atm)

Attempt to stall us with CC, possibly a different variation of life/aether, life/fire is another possibilityRace to see who can wins the race, Oty vs ElfRush us into oblivion

I'm not sure how to feel about the rush, if we pack Oty + CC we should be ok. I Personally look for a CC heavy deck. That's why I suggested Phoenixes. But then, hrmmm knows me and he knows that phoenixes are my weapon of warfare. (Avatar isn't enough? Look at all the tournament winning decks that I've used, what was in every single one?) So they idk.  If I had to guess, they go Life/Entropy or Life/Fire

[~Napalm]

For my match against    I like discord/BH (as PF suggested in the other thread, great minds think alike )  Maybe for damage just discord and chargers?  I wish we had some other Entropy cards to splash in  :/  maybe we can salvage some later (AM, maxwell's, etc).  Also, I feel like we are low on damage-dealing cards.  Am I the only one?

Hmmm... For the Discord/BH deck yes, i feel we are kinda low. Nothing to splash in.

[cebra]

Well, against Earth. I doubt they will use any Shield, because of Momentum. Same counts for Voodoo Doll. No Dragons and Steel Golems, cause of Gravity Shield.
Shriekers, I guess. What would work against that? Fire Shield-Life Shield-Ice Shield. These can hit the Shriekers even when burried. Waiting for a OTK with Graboid isn´t possible either.
So, whats about Fire-Gravity? Or don´t we get Fire Shields?(What do we take as our Propaganda Bons?)

[~Napalm]

Talking it over with Memorystick, the following options for Life have been generated:

1. They could try to rush us and hope we don't have Oty's. A long bet on their part.
2. They could try to fractal rush us again, but I think they learned their lesson.
3. They could go with Life/Entropy and try to screw with our quanta. Seems like a solid idea as gravity has higher costing creatures.
4. They could go with Life/Fire and attempt to stall us out because they are afraid of Oty's. A seemingly obvious choice.
5. They could go with Life/Water and use Forest Spirits and heavy Bolt/Freeze abuse to keep our mighty Oty's from getting their spirits while they are weak. From their shoes, this is what I personally would use.
6. They could go Life/Death and try to rush us with poison, but they know we have purify. A long bet on their part.
7. They could go Life/Aether and spam lobotomizer on our momentum/devour skills. This seems like a great choice on their part, but do they have lobotomizers?
8. They could try the FFQ deck on us hoping that Shockwave is enough to keep our Oty's at bay while spamming creatures faster than we can.
9. They could go Life/Light and stall all the way with Heals and Miracles. Doesn't seem like an obvious choice.
10. They could go Life/Darkness and try Adrena-Vamps, but I think our mighty Oty is enough of a deterant for this.

[Jumbalumba]

Problem with unupgraded otyugh is that its health just isn't good enough. So many creatures have 3 or more.

However, it would be unwise to just ignore otyugh because their other options aren't very good. I do think killing or controlling otyugh with freeze is their best chance and something to counter that would work.

As for me, against Darkness I think a fire deck would be the best counter to the deck plastiqe used. In all likelihood they won't use that again so I'm not so sure. I suppose I can also pack some free Holy Flashes (3 of them) and Gravity Shield to stop Aether Dragons which is the anti-light deck they used. So I suppose I'm thinking Fire Masters with gravity pull to kill any lycanthropes (fire bolt won't do if the lycanthropes use their skill). Should be fairly low in terms of quanta usage.

[~Napalm]

I'm hoping they got with Spirit's + Cockatrice. That seems like their most stable option against us, aside from attempting to screw up our quanta, which involves luck. We could use Adrenaline to get past Freeze, Momentum to bypass the shield (and help get the hp of our Oty's up), and Chargers for damage. If they do try to rush us, we should be able to chew them up with Oty's and Adren our Chargers for extra damage. I'll post the life duo in the Deckbuilding thread.

[GG]

I'm hoping they got with Spirit's + Cockatrice. That seems like their most stable option against us, aside from attempting to screw up our quanta, which involves luck. We could use Adrenaline to get past Freeze, Momentum to bypass the shield (and help get the hp of our Oty's up), and Chargers for damage. If they do try to rush us, we should be able to chew them up with Oty's and Adren our Chargers for extra damage. I'll post the life duo in the Deckbuilding thread.

Yes. I suddenly wondered why the hell we didn't use our life deck last round. We should definitely take advantage of it this round.

Also, note that we have fractal this round. I could go fractal guards or even fractal chargers this round. What's your opinions about this? Since Air could be going wings, I'm beginning to think that fractal chargers could be really viable this round.

[~Napalm]

I'd love to take advantage of our Life cards, but I'm deathly afraid of Life/Fire Stall :S
I have no idea what I can do or say in chat that can push them toward Life/Water, but I'm beginning to think that that is our best option. Make them THINK we're using a poison + oty deck and see if they take the bait.