Round 2 - Salvages / Discards / Conversion

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Indrejue 2 - 1 Korugar

Salvage 6 : 2 EQ, 4 oty

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Smiley56 2 - 0 Boingo

Salvage 6 : 3 dim shield,  3 flying weapons

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Discard 12 : 2 chimera, 5 fractal, 2 aether pillar, 3 gravity pillars

I don't see the point of having fractal at all. Only I could use it with chargers or guards, and even with that, it still sucks. Converting the remaining one fractal in the vault to gravity pillar.

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Discard 12 : 4 dim shield, 4 lightning, 1 gravity pillar, 1 oty, 2 gravity pendulum

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Discard 12 : 6 fireeater, 1 immolation, 2 deflag, 3 gravity pendulum

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Discard 12 : 4 reverse time, 3 gravity pillar, 5 momentum

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Discard 12 : 2 gravity pull, 2 gravity pillar, 2 titan, 2 mercs, 3 heal, 1 adrenaline

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Discard 12 : 1 fog, 3 flying weapon, 3 titan, 4 gravity pull, 1 merc

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Discard 12 : 1 reflective shield, 2 armagio, 4 otyugh, 2 holy light, 3 gravity pendulum




Conversion : 1 fractal, 1 pulvy, 2 purify, 2 chimera, 2 bone pillar, 4 liquid shadow
                    ---> +3 gravity pendulums, +9 gravity pillar




Net loss of 72 cards

[Indrejue]

it was 2-1 not 2-0

[~Napalm]

Something to keep in mind if we beat Lava Golem.

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Mem and I tested this for a little while. If it had 2 nymphs it would totally rock. I got out a 3rd turn discord and a 4th turn nymph, it was all downhill from there. I had all year to get my Fire Eaters to chew through them. It was fun

[Indrejue]

we did not beat lavagolem

[~Napalm]

Erm... Keeping a fractal, discarding a Gravity Pillar then converting said fractal into a pillar isn't the same as discarding that fractal?

Also, keep in mind that EVERYBODY is rushing us now. How are we going to deal with that.

[GG]

Erm... Keeping a fractal, discarding a Gravity Pillar then converting said fractal into a pillar isn't the same as discarding that fractal?

Also, keep in mind that EVERYBODY is rushing us now. How are we going to deal with that.

sounds as if you're saying that we should keep fractal. As I said, only I can use it, and even with that, the fractal deck is pretty much horrible.

[GG]

Come on guys, stop slacking in chat and post your opinions about the discard/conversion.

I just realized that it's possible to convert stuff into pendulums too. Should those cards be turned into pendulums, since we're trying to focus more on duo decks?

[~Napalm]

Ok. Opinion time.

First to clarify. I wasn't saying keep the fractal. I was saying either way you do it, you're just discarding 6 fractal. Why not make it simpler x]

Now then. As for the first deck. I think our biggest problem is having to rely solely on gravity creatures. For this reason, I vote we pick up 4x Golem and 2x Quake. This will allow us to run 2 Earth decks at the same time.

2nd deck. I see that we're discarding most of our shields. We might want those back. Also, any reason to avoid Lobotomizer? Or are we picking up the flying weapons to absorb them from our other loss.

3rd deck. Dump 6x Fractal, 2x Chimera, 2x Gravity Pillar, 2x Aether Pillar

4th deck. I agree with what you have.

5th deck. We can only successfully run 1 Fire Duo atm, so I say dump 5x Eaters, 2x Immo (we don't need more than 4) 3x Deflag and 2x Armagio

6th deck. I agree with what you have.

7th deck. Trim the life duo to 4 or 5 of each? That will keep the deck and save us gravity cards.

8th deck. I agree with what you have.

9th deck. I agree with what you have.

Conversion. Also agreed. (aside from the pointless shuffle of the fractal and pillar)

[Memorystick]

I agree with napalm on the fractals- might as well just discard all six instead of saving one just to turn it into a pillar.

I'm too tired atm to evaluate the rest, but I'll edit my thoughts in later.

EDIT: evaluating time

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Indrejue 2 - 1 Korugar

Salvage 6 : 2 EQ, 4 oty

I'm thinking salvaging armors, EQs, and a pulvy or two, with whatever's left over being either otys or momentums.

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Smiley56 2 - 0 Boingo

Salvage 6 : 3 dim shield,  3 flying weapons

Only variation I might take on this is a lobo instead of a shield, but what you have is fine too.

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Discard 12 : 2 chimera, 5 fractal, 2 aether pillar, 3 gravity pillar

I don't see the point of having fractal at all. Only I could use it with chargers or guards, and even with that, it still sucks. Converting the remaining one fractal in the vault to gravity pillar.

Agreed across the board.

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Discard 12 : 4 dim shield, 4 lightning, 1 gravity pillar, 1 oty, 2 quint

---> 5 dim shield, 4 lightning, 2 quint, 4 aether pillar left in vault

I'd like to keep one more quint, but I can't think of anything to discard instead (don't want to discard a pend just yet), so this'll have to do.

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Discard 12 : 3 deflag, 4 fireeater, 1 immolation, 3 armagio, 1 gravity pendulum

We have 16 eaters in the vault right now, so I think we could lose one more instead of a deflag, aside from that, it looks fine.

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Discard 12 : 4 reverse time, 4 gravity pillar, 4 momentum

Opposite situation to fire eaters (since eaters require a duo, while momentum can be used in any deck)- again, 16 momentum, but we have several decks that use them. Keep two more momentum and discard two pends, I think.

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Discard 12 : 2 gravity pull, 2 gravity pillar, 2 titan, 2 gravity pendulum, 4 mercs
                 OR 6 heal 6 adrenaline

No idea. Either our life deck has to go, or a huge bulk of our gravity cards.
I like this deck, though. It's the least other teams are gonna expect, and i'd like to save it.

1 adren, 4 heal, 2 pillar, 2 titan, 2 pends, 1 merc. Best compromise, I think.

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Discard 12 : 1 fog, 3 flying weapon, 3 titan, 2 gravity pull, 2 gravity pillar

Agreed.

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Discard 12 : 2 reflective shield, 2 armagio, 2 otyugh, 6 gravity pillar

Only beef I have with this is that it puts us at 9 armagios. However, not much we can do about it, so, either this, or 1 armagio 7 pillar.

Conversion : 1 fractal, 2 purify, 2 chimera, 2 bone pillar, 4 liquid shadow
                    (not like we're gonna use any of these, are we?)

Agreed. Why'd we put LS in the vault in the first place? >_>

[GG]

.....You guys should start reading things more carefully...

There are FIVE fractals in the deck I used, not six. We CANNOT discard cards that were not in the decks we played, which is the reason why I'm saying that we have to convert the one remaining fractal to a pendulum.

[Memorystick]

.....You guys should start reading things more carefully...

There are FIVE fractals in the deck I used, not six. We CANNOT discard cards that were not in the decks we played, which is the reason why I'm saying that we have to convert the one remaining fractal to a pendulum.

*double-checks* oh, you're right >_>' I feel stupid now. That makes sense.  (see? I knew I was too tired to comment)

[~Napalm]

Urgh *puts contacts back in* I feel stupid now too

Oh well, we can't be perfect. I'd like some comments on my suggestions. I really think we need to try for a very nice Earth duo.