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Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306464#msg306464
« on: April 06, 2011, 04:41:04 am »
Here are our matchups for round 1, discuss.

:gravity girlsgeneration   :fire Dogg
:gravity jmdt                    :light coinch
:gravity TStar                   :time Azumi
:gravity malebolgia          :darkness suxerz
:gravity thenewguy         :death xdude
:gravity einharjar145       :aether higurashi (master)
:gravity killsdazombies    :water bootsza
:gravity TheIdioticIdiot    :air amilir (lt)

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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306476#msg306476
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 04:56:25 am »
Whoever set the matchups didn't do us any favors for sure.  Amilir, Higs, and xdude are all top of the pyramid caliber players.  I guess Azumi is a former CL champ.  Bootsza and coinich are no slouches either.  May as well get the tough ones out early.  If we aren't careful we could easily lose 6 of 8 this round.
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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306512#msg306512
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 06:25:38 am »
Whoever set the matchups didn't do us any favors for sure.  Amilir, Higs, and xdude are all top of the pyramid caliber players.  I guess Azumi is a former CL champ.  Bootsza and coinich are no slouches either.  May as well get the tough ones out early.  If we aren't careful we could easily lose 6 of 8 this round.
yo, confidence there, tstar...
we have great players on our side too, CL and BL champions
and tourney farmers...
anyway, I am up against air...
I am expecting :entropy coming in my way...
with BE, cata titan is probably not smart for me...
I think quinted fire eaters is probably best for me...



oh, also, should we use the event card?

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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306568#msg306568
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 09:24:47 am »
my name is spelled wrong D:<.
And if i fight higs, i expect a few things.
Dim shield. lobos. silence and maybe phase drags or fractal something....(Or her usual poison aether)

Maybe i use the titan catapult(kinda nulls the dim shield.) or if we have a purifying grav deck???

Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306569#msg306569
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 09:26:49 am »
my name is spelled wrong D:<.
And if i fight higs, i expect a few things.
Dim shield. lobos. silence and maybe phase drags or fractal something....(Or her usual poison aether)

Maybe i use the titan catapult(kinda nulls the dim shield.) or if we have a purifying grav deck???
you should go cata titan... rushes poison too

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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306586#msg306586
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 10:18:15 am »
Oh this is just great. The event card just made the strategy thrice harder for me.

I was actually thinking about discarding 6 cards per player and going for tons of upgraded cards, as we're gonna lose 6 cards if any of us lose anyways.

ex) i go with 24 upgrades, jmdt with 21, others with the capability with 18.

What's your opinions on it?
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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306588#msg306588
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 10:23:22 am »
Oh this is just great. The event card just made the strategy thrice harder for me.

I was actually thinking about discarding 6 cards per player and going for tons of upgraded cards, as we're gonna lose 6 cards if any of us lose anyways.

ex) i go with 24 upgrades, jmdt with 21, others with the capability with 18.

What's your opinions on it?
risky... what about 3 cards per player?

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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306590#msg306590
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 10:25:47 am »
Oh this is just great. The event card just made the strategy thrice harder for me.

I was actually thinking about discarding 6 cards per player and going for tons of upgraded cards, as we're gonna lose 6 cards if any of us lose anyways.

ex) i go with 24 upgrades, jmdt with 21, others with the capability with 18.

What's your opinions on it?
risky... what about 3 cards per player?
I say let's pick the decks first then distribute the upgrades depending on the decks. For example, you don't really need much upgrades in cata titans other than maybe towers.
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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306594#msg306594
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 10:40:38 am »
Oh this is just great. The event card just made the strategy thrice harder for me.

I was actually thinking about discarding 6 cards per player and going for tons of upgraded cards, as we're gonna lose 6 cards if any of us lose anyways.

ex) i go with 24 upgrades, jmdt with 21, others with the capability with 18.

What's your opinions on it?
risky... what about 3 cards per player?
I say let's pick the decks first then distribute the upgrades depending on the decks. For example, you don't really need much upgrades in cata titans other than maybe towers.
yeah...

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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306597#msg306597
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 10:57:43 am »
after talking to einharjar145, I think only him, TStar, and KDZ can potentially use discord/BH this round to its full potential...
we probably won't use it at all (though I think it's good vs higs)

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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306651#msg306651
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 12:35:29 pm »
Oh this is just great. The event card just made the strategy thrice harder for me.

I was actually thinking about discarding 6 cards per player and going for tons of upgraded cards, as we're gonna lose 6 cards if any of us lose anyways.

ex) i go with 24 upgrades, jmdt with 21, others with the capability with 18.

What's your opinions on it?
risky... what about 3 cards per player?
I say let's pick the decks first then distribute the upgrades depending on the decks. For example, you don't really need much upgrades in cata titans other than maybe towers.
yeah...

let's set up a time to meet up in chat
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Re: Round 1 Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23989.msg306768#msg306768
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 04:09:12 pm »
yo, confidence there, tstar...
we have great players on our side too, CL and BL champions
and tourney farmers...
anyway, I am up against air...
I am expecting :entropy coming in my way...
with BE, cata titan is probably not smart for me...
I think quinted fire eaters is probably best for me...
Don't mistake caution for lack of confidence.  I fully believe that we can win every single matchup this round.  But to ignore the fact that we are facing several players who would be labeled as part of the PvP elite would be foolhardy.  This means preparation is of vital importance here.  We won't get any breaks from our opponents making a crucial mistake, so we need to be at the top of our games as well.  This means once we select which decks to use where each player needs to spend as much time as possible playing that deck in the trainer against AI's and potential opponent decks and even PvP Duels against teammates posing as the enemy.  We need to make sure we are completely familiar with our own deck and all the quirks and tricks and tactics we can use, as well as prepare for some expected tactics we will face.  Simply being handed you deck and expecting to roll into your matchup unprepared and win is a recipe for failure.  Round 1 will need us to be sharp and active from the moment you know the deck you will play until the moment your duel is over.  If we do this as a team, I have every confidence that we can win every single battle.  If people aren't committed and ready and prepared, we will likely lose the majority of the matches.

To put it in perspective, I spend on average 5-7 hours total in a week preparing for tournies.  That includes building decks, testing them in the AI, and sparring with other tournament hopefuls to get a feel for my decks and possible things I might see.  This preparation is tedious and often boring, but I think you can see the results bear out.  Everyone should be ready to spend at least 2-3 hours before their matchup playing their deck until it is second nature, and also researching through the War 2 decks and decks posted in the forums to scout out potential decks they might face so they can have a tactic ready against it.  I cannot overstate how much of an advantage it is when you can basically predict exactly what deck you are facing in the first game simply from seeing the Mark or the first couple pillars/pendulums played.  That is a massive advantage that allows you to prepare a proper plan of attack and defense before your opponent evens what how to play your deck.  This type of understanding and insight can only come through experience and research, you can't just "wing it" and hope to be successful the majority of the time.
oh, also, should we use the event card?
That is an interesting question.  Ironically this event card would have made an unupped immo deck potentially viable by using upped pillars or minor phoenixes.  This will also have a dramatic effect on how we need to prepare for our opponenets since even just 3 upped cards can radically change the dynamics and speed of a deck.  I think it would be important to utilize this advantage against some of our matchups, but if we feel strongly that we have a clear advantage somewhere we might not have too.  While GG's suggestion of using 6 cards each has some merit, it's also a potential disaster.  If we use 0 cards and lose every battle, we'll just be exactly where we would be if we upped all the cards and won every battle (not counting salvage of course).  The danger is that sacrificing 6 cards per person becomes very bad if we also lose those battles since that loss now costs us 12 cards instead of 6.  It may not be wise to gamble that many cards on every single matchup considering we will likely face a bevy of upgraded cards as well.  You want to win them all, but it can also be wise to try to minimize the damage on our tougher matchups instead of trying to break the bank trying to win if doing so doesn't give up a clear advantage.
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