Starting Vault Discussion

[vagman13]

Just anti-water rush then. Poison/stalls would be a problem.

It's not and anti-water,but an anti-rush in general.I think it can even stop grabows(obviously not immogolems or immophoenix).But yeah,stalls and poisons are a problem.Also,I hate mercs,they suck.I prefer dragons.


Also Random Cards that I would like If we had as scraps in our vault,Priority is low:

Maxwell's demon: 3 (for the diskholes)
Mitosis : 4 -6 (mitocharges woo)
Deflags : 3 (obvious)
Holy light : 6  (obvious)
Rewinds : 3 (usefull in grabows vs immo decks)
wings : 6 (usefull against life or fractal whatever is not flying)

Also,for the lulz:

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Accelegolems! Love it!

[nilsieboy]

deck looks pretty good, maybe try to add 2/3 armagios? then if it is rush vs rush you will have +25 hp wich can save your life.

[nilsieboy]

One deck that IIRC Malebolgia developed as an anti-water strategy:

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Gravity: 24
Pillars: 10
Chargers: 6
Mercs: 4
Gravity Shield: 4

Earth: 6
Plate Armor: 6

Total: 30

Feel free to tweak as you see fit.

You forgot about poison rush and water stall.

i think that deck has a decent chance against stalls, because you can use the armors on your chargers wich will give them 8 hp, wich is hard to kill especialy for water stall .
a problem for that deck might be steam machines/poison deck so we gotta find a way to beat those, cause i won't be suprised if they bring a poison rush cause cheap creature control and poison is pretty effective against gravity.

[vagman13]

deck looks pretty good, maybe try to add 2/3 armagios? then if it is rush vs rush you will have +25 hp wich can save your life.

well,armagions cost only 1 quanta more than merc.I could easily replace the mercs with armagios and then they would serve a triple role.Immo fodder if no gemfinder shows up early,extra hp with gravity pull,damage if accelerated.

Here's a version with firemasters

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a problem for that deck might be steam machines/poison deck so we gotta find a way to beat those,

a wings deck that can beat steam machines:

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[vagman13]

Vag's vault suggestion version 0,1 beta (need trimming down a lot of cards)

Total: 382

Gravity:  237                           Entropy: 40                         Earth:  39
Pillar : 22                                Abomination : 4                   Graboid : 12
Pendulum: 106                       Discord : 8                           Pulveriser : 3
Titan: 10                                 Purple Dragon : 2                Basilisk Blood : 6
Catapult: 4                             Nova : 12                            Iridium Warden : 6
Acceleration : 7                       Dissipation Shield : 4          Plate Armor : 6
Sapphire Chargers : 24          Antimatter : 6                     Gnome rider : 3
Blackhole : 12                         Purple nymph : 1                Stone Skin : 3
Momentum: 9                         Maxwell's Demon : 3
Gravity Pull : 6
Armagio : 9
Otyugh : 6
Gravity shield : 4                     Life : 5                               Fire : 15
Colossal Dragon : 6                 Mitosis : 5                         Immolation : 6
Graviton Merc : 6                                                              Lavagolem : 6
Graviton FIremaster : 6                                                    deflagration : 3


Air: 14                                    Aether : 4                           Death : 13
Flying weapon : 5                  Lightning : 4                       Poison : 3
Fog : 3                                                                              Arsenic : 2
wings : 6                                                                           Deathstalker : 5
                                                                                         Bonewall : 3

Light : 6                                 Time : 3                               Darkness : 6
Holy light : 6                          Reverse TIme : 3                 Voodoo dolls : 6

[Calindu]

Ok, I made the decks that worth keeping:

Section A:Nova grabby

2x

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 55q 55s 55t 55t 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 590 590 590 590 590 590 5og 61q 61q 745 745 745 8pm

12 nova
4 momentum
2 titan
4 Gpulls
14 gravity pendulums
12 graboids
3 chargers
4 lightnings
2 fog shields

TOTAL:60 cards

Section B:Discord/BH

2x

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4vc 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 50u 55k 55k 55k 55k 55m 55m 55t 55t 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 576 576 576 576 576 6ts 6u5 6ve 8pj

4 entropy pillars
4 entropy pendulums
6 abdominations
4 purple dragons
6 discords
8 gravity pillars
4 armagios
4 Gpulls
10 BHs
10 gravity pendulums

TOTAL:60 cards

Section C:Cata titans

1x

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10 gravity pillars
6 titans
4 catapults
2 gravity pendulums
2 fog shields
6 flying weapons

Using from other decks:2 titans, 2 gravity pendulums, 2 fog shields(Nova grabby)
TOTAL:24 cards

Section D:Poison

2x

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2 bone pillars
6 poisons
4 arsenics
8 deathstalkers
4 death pendulums
4 armagios
8 momentums
18 gravity pendulums
6 bone walls

TOTAL:60 cards

Section E:Stall

1x

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3 entropy pillars
3 entropy pendulums
4 dissipation shields
6 antimatters
1 purple nymph
6 armagios
14 gravity pendulums
3 otyughs

Used from other decks:14 gravity pendulums, 2 armagios (Poison), 3 entropy pillars, 3 entropy pendulums, 2 armagios(Discord/BH)

TOTAL:16 cards


Will post rest later

[vagman13]

as per request I ll post the changes I think should be done on cal's deck.

Novagrabby: Perfect,me likes

Section B:Discord/BH

2x

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Bonus card could be anything,Maxwell,charger,armagio,abomination,even Animate weapon if Lt. or Gen.

Section C:Cata titans

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Section D:Poison

2x or maybe only 1x . Not sure on this one

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Section E:Stall

looks good,I like also to add the earth stall I posted in the counters deck

[vagman13]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArpOGBDwFe93dGcwVFVHdGEtaEhtZE0zQmFTVHdISWc#gid=31

[Jenkar]

1d 10h left.

[Jenkar]

Now.
We have 17 cards to do. Suggestions
freeze (was buffed to 50% bonus to cata) & more catapults
Chaos seed.

[nilsieboy]

Now.
We have 17 cards to do. Suggestions
freeze (was buffed to 50% bonus to cata) & more catapults
Chaos seed.

17 cards...
i really agree with the freezes, they're really nice with the new buff (LT/general catatitans with animate weapon and water mark for freeze?)
maybe this sounds weird but a couple of dragons? they can always come handy in a mono and are nice against stalls as you will laugh at creature control.