Round 1 - Deckbuilding

[smiley56]

I thought about that, but I figured that Pulvy would make dim. shields almost completely useless since I have no way to counter a Pulvy once it is played.  Also, I figured they would evolve the graboids then re-burrow them to get that 4 atk instead of 2.  Giving me a window of opportunity to kill them.
Also, I was hoping they wouldnt get enough out in time to one-turn kill me (with the help of black holes to keep hp high).  But I definately could be wrong thinking that. 
Then again, black holes could definately prevent them from getting 3 needed to destroy the shield.

Do you think something like this would be more effective?

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Or this?

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[~Napalm]

Hmmm. I'm having some trouble coming up with a counter to light. What should I be worried about coming from them? Blessing could make otyughs useless, miracle could cause me to want higher damage. I'm thinking a duo would work best, throwing in some heavier creatures. Possible a fire duo with the phoenixes included. But that is probably a bit too obvious of a deck considering who I am... They will probably expect me to have fire. Although I'm not sure what they can do about it.

[edit] After some discussion with Memorystick, we decided that the best chance will likely be a time duo. Something like this:

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55k 55k 55k 55p 55p 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rtThis way, we get around the possibility of hope, dragons can be useless if they don't have ways of getting rid of multiple shields, and miracle will only add to toxin count, making them die faster. Oty's can chew up the little guys if they don't bless them, which then makes them not be able to hit us, a no win situation. Rewind may or may not be a help here, but if we are defenseless, it can help. The only thing that might be necessary is a few Chargers to help with dmg, but I honestly think that a 3rd turn neurotoxin should be enough. Now the question is, what kind of duo's would they have that would waste this?[/edit]

[Memorystick]

I'm thinking of using something like this:

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 55t 55t 55t 55t 55u 55u 55u 5f9 5f9 5f9 5lg 5lg 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oiShields to counter UG, flying pulled titans for damage and health protection. This deck would benefit from novas, but immolation + fire eaters will have to work.

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@smiley that deck looks much better, although i'm contemplating whether we should really use quints or not.... feel like quint should be reserved to some creature with higher attack that we may salvage later on.

@napalm I don't see why you would need that many pendulums. it's not like you're using eternity, after all. Trade in four pendulums with pillars and the deck would seem fine, i guess.

[Indrejue]

WTF i am facing a freaking master as my first match?  ok which deck should i face him with.  i am staring down blessings hope shield and miracles for sure.  should probably have momentum.  i am thinking of taking either the time deck or the poison deck.  what do you guys think and what gravity cards should i place in.  nm napalm beat me to it.  napalm can you take out one gravity shield so i can have 2 as well.

[Indrejue]

ok here is the deck code i am thinking of using and such just need napalm to remove one gravity shield.

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4sk&deck=z352gz252oz252qz352uz755kz355mz255pz355qz355rz3576)

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[918273645]

OK, time for a mindless rush deck, no?

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Here is my latest version:

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The only problem is if they have any kind of CC to play from their hand, I'm screwed.  I only have chargers to do damage and they are completely vulnerable.  I'm not too worried about CC from creature skills because I can lightning those if they are a problem.  Also, black hole helps so if they splash a little of an element into their deck, I can easily drain it.

Other than that, I really like the deck!

[~Napalm]

WTF i am facing a freaking master as my first match?  ok which deck should i face him with.  i am staring down blessings hope shield and miracles for sure.  should probably have momentum.  i am thinking of taking either the time deck or the poison deck.  what do you guys think and what gravity cards should i place in.  nm napalm beat me to it.  napalm can you take out one gravity shield so i can have 2 as well.

Sounds good to me. When do we need these decks finalized?

[~Napalm]

@smiley that deck looks much better, although i'm contemplating whether we should really use quints or not.... feel like quint should be reserved to some creature with higher attack that we may salvage later on.

@napalm I don't see why you would need that many pendulums. it's not like you're using eternity, after all. Trade in four pendulums with pillars and the deck would seem fine, i guess.

Well I suppose I can take out a few, but the early time quanta is ESSENTIAL to making this work. Also, this is actually a pretty speedy deck, so unless they spam miracles, I won't actually build up too much time quanta anyway.


Hmmm... after some major testing, I think you're right. Those oty's can seem hard to get out at times. I'll take out a few more pends I think.

After more testing, it seems apparent that the gravity shields are 100% necessary. I had chessking1993 (not in the war, an old friend of mine) Vs me with any light deck he wanted to. He went with a fairly obvious choice of Light/Air that utilized some pegasi, dragons, and flying weapons. He also had at least 1 miracle.

Test 1 I got up to 38 toxin on him because of a miracle, but his one weapon in the weapon slot got me. My oty's took care of the pegasi, the shield took care of all the other flying weapons and dragons, as well as the overblessed pegasi. Rewind made the pegasi devourable. Everything went almost perfect. Except that the first poison was about 2 turns too slow, causing me to lose.

Test 2 I got out 3 early Scorp combos but never got a single oty or gravity shield. The rewinds helped with the dragons and even a miracle was not enough to stop the onslaught of +3 minimum toxin per turn.

His advice to me was to find a way to incorporate more damage. Chargers are all we have for that. Any thoughts?

[918273645]

Why is there no fractal in the vault? Fractal chargers FTW.

[Memorystick]

Why is there no fractal in the vault? Fractal chargers FTW.

There's a lot of things that could be used, and we have a limit to what we could put in. Even with the propaganda bonus there's only so much we can put in.