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Lets talk the other elements. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23617.msg301147#msg301147
« on: March 30, 2011, 01:17:00 am »
To aid in our deck search, lets se what decks/idea are strong and weak versus various elements.  This will help us determine which decks to take when we get to that point.  It may also help in salvaging as well.

:aether


:air


:darkness


:death


:earth


:entropy


:fire


:gravity


:life


:light


:time


:water

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Re: Lets talk the other elements. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23617.msg302233#msg302233
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 12:26:23 pm »
i dont get what u mean man. so u r saying that we perceive what our opponents might use and then find counters for it?

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Re: Lets talk the other elements. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23617.msg302324#msg302324
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 03:09:21 pm »
i dont get what u mean man. so u r saying that we perceive what our opponents might use and then find counters for it?
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Re: Lets talk the other elements. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23617.msg302771#msg302771
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 01:14:48 am »
Element breakdown

Thought it would help if we made a list of effect-specific counters per element. 

Strategy - Counter(s)

:aether

Immortals/Quintessence - Shield
Lightning - Bigger creatures, Quintessence
PU - Quintessence, CC
Phase Shield - Momentum, PC, Bolts
Lobotomizer - Quintessence, no removable skills
Mindgate - PC, pendulum heavy

Quint Fireeaters, Titanbow


:air

OE - Quintessence, PC, CC, large creatures
Shockwave - Quintessence, large creatures
Wings - Momentum, PC, flying creatures
Unstable Gas - PC, reflective shield, :fire denial
Flying Weapon - RT, CC, Lobotomize

Titanbow, Cat Titan


:darkness

Steal - Enchant Artifact, limited permanent use
Devourer - Sanctuary, CC (holy light could be preferred if they don't use lycans), lower QI
Vampire effect - Antimatter, Lobotomize
Drain Life - Reflective shield, Discord, denial, Quintessence
Nightmare - Sanctuary
Nightfall - PC, Gravity Shield (dragons)
Liquid Shadow - Quintessence, no skills, big/powerful creatures
Voodoo Doll - RT,

No Devtal For You, Antimatter Stall


:death

Plague - Quintessence
Bonewall - Mitosis, Fractal, Momentum, Adrenaline
Skull Shield - Momentum, large creatures, PC
Graveyard - CC (plenty), PC
Poison/Venom - Purify, CC, PC, Lobotomize


:earth

Earthquake - Pillarless, Enchant Artifact
Pulverizer - Limited permanent use, Enchant Artifact
Titanium Shield - Momentum, attack buffs, PC
Gaurd - Quintessence, CC
Shrieker Rush - Lots of CC


:entropy

CC - Quintessence, CC (nymph, elf)
Dissipation Shield - PC, Momentum, lots of damage
Discord - Sanctuary, low QI, rainbow dip


:fire

CC - Quintessence, big creatures
PC - Limited permanent use, Enchant Artifact
Firebolts - Reflective shield, denial
Low HP/ high attack creatures - Decent CC, damage shield, Paradox, Antimatter
Fahrenheit - PC, denial
Fire Shield - PC, Momentum, big creatures


:gravity

I guess this is where we list our own weaknesses... *shrugs* Why not?

Momentum - Lobotomize
Gravity Shield - PC, small creatures
Gravity Pull - Quintessence
Black Hole - Monos and Duos, Sanctuary
Acceleration - Lobotomize
Catapult - PC, Quintessence


:life

Mitosis - CC, Lobotomize
Thorn Carapace - Momentum, PC
Adrenaline - Infection, damage shield
Scorpion - Lobotomize, Shield, CC
Emerald Shield - No bolts, Momentum, more attack


:light

Sanctuary - PC
Miracle - Earthquake
Hope - Momentum, mass CC
Crusader - CC, Enchanted weapons, no weapons, Lobotomize
Luciferine - Lobotomize, CC
Morning Star - Freeze + Shockwave, damage shield


:time

RT - Quintessence, cheap creature rush, PC (Eternity)
Neurotoxin - Purify
Hasten - PC
Pharaoh - Lobotomize, lots of CC (Scarab gen.), Gravity Shield, Quintessence
Ghost of the Past - Sanctuary (Nightmare), CC
Anubis - Strong CC, damage shield


:water

Purify - No poisons
Trident - PC, Enchant Artifact
Freeze - Quintessence, CC (squid)
Ice Shield - Momentum, PC
Toadfish - Quintessence, CC
Nymph Tears - CC, non-water-pillar control
Ice Bolt - Reflective shield,
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Re: Lets talk the other elements. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23617.msg303468#msg303468
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 09:47:05 pm »
here is something for when we pick our vault:
despite :gravity not having the best synergies with :air, we need wings...
:entropy, :earth, :water, :time, :life, :death are all pretty bad against it... (given if it's not destroyed...)
and it's good against any graboid decks...

 

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