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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159275#msg1159275
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2014, 08:39:13 pm »
Apologies. I lack any deckbuilding skill.

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Actually, that is pretty good.  Throw in Bloods instead, and this thing is 3 times better, but good eye on the strategy.

Not sure how much sense something like this makes, and I haven't quanta balanced it or anything yet, but as a rough idea...

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Rage pots can be used as CC or buffs, depending on the situation.

Something tells me a second dragon and Guards would be ideal.  Good base idea.
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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159432#msg1159432
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2014, 05:43:37 pm »
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I like this one over the others.  The probably option is to upgrade some Towers and Pendulums.

I think that three Titans is likely too few since you usually need to pult more than one (only did 10 tests, but came up short a majority of times with that deck w/ 3 upped pillars and 3 upped pends). 

Here's a nice stall if we need something for Creature based damage.

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Here's a nice adrenastaves build from last war:
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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159448#msg1159448
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2014, 07:20:35 pm »
catapult deck: Yeah, I'm not sure what the optimal count for quanta/titans/catapults is, but you could probably go with -2 quanta +2 titan or something.  I should mention that the point of the freezes is (ideally) to catapult a frozen titan, which if memory serves is 49 damage instead of 33.  I had jen-i use something like this against me in leagues, but I don't know how many of everything there was.  (well, I do know that it had 6 nova/sundial, but that's illegal for us since there wouldn't be room for the freezes/flying weapons then)  Upgrades should most likely be the quanta, especially if a couple are cut for more titans/etc.

I experimented with an arctic squid catatitans deck in CL, but it didn't manage to do very well; the squids would just die to removal, since the opponent would have no other targets to use it on.  It might work better in the war environment, something like -3 freeze +3 arctic squid, mark of water, and whatever to the quanta base to make it work.  It could also be done novaless as long as animate weapons were used.  (whatever is done, do not upgrade the flying weapons in this deck; if they were played and took, say, time quanta, for instance, it could screw us in the endgame potentially)

gravity shield/plate armour deck: Basilisk bloods are probably better overall here, since they can be played on enemy creatures before a gravity shield is drawn, whereas the plate armours are useless until then.  Plate armour does work well with our hungry otyughs, though :)  (but there's also stuff like blessing or chaos power for that)  I do think we should look at using some otyugh builds; they can really destroy some decks.  If we can find something that works, I've also got 3 auburn nymphs that we might be able to make some crazy gravity shield pulverizer duo with.

I'll try to get some more feedback up this evening; I'm at work atm, but my computer is up and running, so I can actually contribute to the war effort, now.

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159497#msg1159497
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2014, 11:46:52 pm »
catapult deck: Yeah, I'm not sure what the optimal count for quanta/titans/catapults is, but you could probably go with -2 quanta +2 titan or something.  I should mention that the point of the freezes is (ideally) to catapult a frozen titan, which if memory serves is 49 damage instead of 33.  I had jen-i use something like this against me in leagues, but I don't know how many of everything there was.  (well, I do know that it had 6 nova/sundial, but that's illegal for us since there wouldn't be room for the freezes/flying weapons then)  Upgrades should most likely be the quanta, especially if a couple are cut for more titans/etc.

I experimented with an arctic squid catatitans deck in CL, but it didn't manage to do very well; the squids would just die to removal, since the opponent would have no other targets to use it on.  It might work better in the war environment, something like -3 freeze +3 arctic squid, mark of water, and whatever to the quanta base to make it work.  It could also be done novaless as long as animate weapons were used.  (whatever is done, do not upgrade the flying weapons in this deck; if they were played and took, say, time quanta, for instance, it could screw us in the endgame potentially)

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If you have time, give my version of the deck a try; with the time mark you don't worry about quanta for sundials, and the upped flying weapons allows you to treat it like a duo (but the 1 cost won't screw up the mulligan). It looks a little quanta strained, but it seems to be working when I test it. Maybe I'm not battling the right level though?

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159525#msg1159525
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2014, 01:48:22 am »
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Lots of stall junk, after which ideally amber nymph + discord will be able to lock the game down.  31 cards to prevent possible deckout, since this deck has fairly low damage output.  Relies fairly heavily on getting 2 novas early, and it might not have enough quanta (but armagios can be replaced by pillars if needed).  The entropy mark doesn't help anything besides discords, but it does mean discord is guaranteed to come out early.  This is mostly to give an idea for another kind of deck; feel free to mod it as needed.  I'd tweak it a bit depending on the team faced as well.

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159526#msg1159526
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Probably fails to quick rushes like grabbow, but might be pretty successful against certain other types of decks.  Depending on what we predict, we might want to remove the damage module entirely (overdrives/titans/catapult)

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159530#msg1159530
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I'm not sure what I'm going for here, but it looks really cool :p  I took the inspiration from a team water deck involving abyss crawlers and nightmares and vamp daggers that I remember from way back.  I tried to pack as many counters to as many different ideas as possible.  Only thing I don't like about this deck is that it has no creature removal.

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159531#msg1159531
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This is a "surprise it's darkness" deck.  It started as a heavy denial with black holes (above), but I had so much excess dark quanta that I threw in more dragons... it seemed to be where the deck "wanted to go."

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It's basically a slower/weaker version of a mono-dark, so it's not worth much but could be used as a surprise.  I dunno.

Here's a classic Fractal Charger:
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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159541#msg1159541
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2014, 05:50:28 am »
For the pest one, I'd do something like this, since upped pests do very little for the deck:

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6th upgrade whatever, probably a drain life.

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159678#msg1159678
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2014, 07:17:00 pm »
At work, mostly notes to self to do later:

PUgon-overdrive deck, something like 5 massive dragon 5 PU 3 overdrive and maybe a couple shields or lightnings or something.

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Re: Deck Collection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55982.msg1159707#msg1159707
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2014, 02:21:35 am »
I was surprised that we could get access to last war's TitanPad notes...
https://titanpad.com/d7HUgOUhqY

I'm assuming the more diligent members of other teams (e.g. hainkarga) would also check this out.  Not sure if there are any strategy secrets there, but it does give an example of the starting vault that was used last war.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2014, 02:52:47 am »
This was a really creative deck from last war - you can either adren the staves for more healing or the chargers for more damage. Depending on the expected CC this could be quite good.

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Here's a rainbow that has good mod potential as well

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Here's a nice reverse time deck for pharaohs/scarabs
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I agree that we shouldn't use DBH too often as it will be expected, but many other elements are just plain scared of DBH so it's worth putting these cards in for the intimidation factor. This was a pretty nice build.
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