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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg452404#msg452404
« Reply #132 on: January 24, 2012, 08:52:43 pm »
I would have thought focus would be more like turning all of your quanta into your mark's type + extra quanta for gravity or something, because as it is I don't see much focusing.
I really like this idea and think it has a whole lot of potential.
It is better idea than PC for everyone. Of course when we nerf Nova.
I had actually thought of that, but if you consider cremation + 0 cost creature gives 8 fire + 11 others, nova + SoF would give 12 for your element minus any casting cost of the card to play (probably 3 given the cost of other shards), so it really wouldn't be that powerful. Supernova fueled by a mark would be very powerful for mono entropy, but supernova with any other element requires a duo, so would probably not be so effective for reliable quanta generation. The best thing about this idea is that it really doesn't help rainbows, which is a good thing imo.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg452453#msg452453
« Reply #133 on: January 24, 2012, 11:24:29 pm »
My Balance Suggestion:

Shard of Focus:
6 Other
0 | 5
3 Other : Gravitation - Delay a permanent for 2 turns, 3 if your mark is :gravity.
Returns to your hand as a Black Hole if HP>50.
Delaying a shield is pretty valuable.
Explosion destroys one forever and costs 2 fire quanta. Pulverizer destroys one a turn for 2 gravity quanta. Steal steals one and costs 3 darkness quanta. If you're implying this would be OP i don't see the reasoning behind it.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg452466#msg452466
« Reply #134 on: January 25, 2012, 12:14:50 am »
My Balance Suggestion:

Shard of Focus:
6 Other
0 | 5
3 Other : Gravitation - Delay a permanent for 2 turns, 3 if your mark is :gravity.
Returns to your hand as a Black Hole if HP>50.
Delaying a shield is pretty valuable.
Explosion destroys one forever and costs 2 fire quanta. Pulverizer destroys one a turn for 2 gravity quanta. Steal steals one and costs 3 darkness quanta. If you're implying this would be OP i don't see the reasoning behind it.
I don't Imply. I was prompting consideration.

The activation costs are balanced. 6 :rainbow ~= 3 :gravity and Pulvy's casting cost is ~+3 :gravity greater than a mono weapon of equal attack.
It might be balanced at the standard 5|3 :rainbow casting cost.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg456595#msg456595
« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2012, 01:49:14 pm »
I like Zblader version.

Or if accretion is to be kept a free and hard permanent remover make it destroy a random permanent (including yours) when used, then it's not totally op and a more situationnal card (still very good for pilarless rushes, decks protecting their own permanents, and gravity decks as even if you destroy your own permanents half the time, ending with a 45hp creature for overdrive or a black hole is good enough).

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg458587#msg458587
« Reply #136 on: February 10, 2012, 05:29:15 pm »
My main deck happens to be gravity/earth with the main focus of permanent/mana control. So I saw this card and got extremely excited as it is EXACTLY within my decks theme. But upon pondering this cards abilities as is, I've come to realize it is not so good for me or the game. Destroying permanents and controlling mana.. This card single handedly does what my entire deck tries so hard to accomplish, only to be given to every rainbow deck imaginable for cheap.

Its abilities should be complementary to existing cards and not an alternative. I would like to see adjustments made.

The delay permanent idea someone made above has merit and should be considered.



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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465044#msg465044
« Reply #137 on: February 27, 2012, 08:51:36 am »
Tiny nitpicking, but I've been testing it in trainer and it seems to turn into a Black Hole at 50 hp, too, rather than only above 50 hp (which I'd expect from the description).

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465093#msg465093
« Reply #138 on: February 27, 2012, 02:57:56 pm »
I think this is a little OP. 3 rounds of perm control for only 4 random quanta is very cheap, and it is very immune to cc. Any damaging spells will just extend it's life, and reverse time will return to the user's hand, granting even more perm control. Gravity pulling it could backfire if you cannot kill it quickly enough and give even more free pc. The only way to stop it relaiby is freeze or basilisk blood, and that just increases the lobbing power when used in a trebuchet. Mutation could work, but people hardly use unupped druids so you risk giving your opoment a powerful mutant.

AND on top of that, it gives an unupped black hole in to your opoment's hand when it's done.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465150#msg465150
« Reply #139 on: February 27, 2012, 05:11:50 pm »
does mitosis work on these, i wonder?
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465151#msg465151
« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2012, 05:19:42 pm »
does mitosis work on these, i wonder?
It does.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465154#msg465154
« Reply #141 on: February 27, 2012, 05:32:09 pm »
that's scary indeed.  thinking of some :gravity :life decks to test out later.  mitosis one shard, acceleration adrenaline its babies.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465157#msg465157
« Reply #142 on: February 27, 2012, 05:54:00 pm »
nevermind adrenaline, it's effectiveness will only last for 1 turn when it hits 3hp. The idea of an limitless supply of PC and BH's for 4 :rainbow is moar scary than the damage. Maybe mitosis + pc + catapult?

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg465159#msg465159
« Reply #143 on: February 27, 2012, 05:57:36 pm »
true, repeatable catapult fodder may be useful later after youve destroyed their quanta production and black holed away their already produced quanta.
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