*Author

diracdelta

  • Guest
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg447264#msg447264
« Reply #108 on: January 09, 2012, 12:43:19 pm »
I suggest adding these conditions:

1. When a new sof is played, it absorbs all other (indeed can be only 1) sof already present on your field. The new sof has their combined hp and can turn to blackhole instantly when it exceed to critical value (I suggest reduce it to 40).
2. Using the ability delays it by 1 turn.

These prevent fractal/mitosis.
But I think scaling down the hps (initial/gain per use/maximum) is a bad idea since one can keep it reaching max hp much more easily (eg putting right on amount on poison then quint it).

Offline agentflare

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 642
  • Reputation Power: 10
  • agentflare is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.agentflare is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • New to Elements
  • Awards: Card Ideas In Action WinnerWar #4 Winner - Team Death
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg447730#msg447730
« Reply #109 on: January 10, 2012, 10:18:46 pm »
I think the general consensus is Way Frickin' OP.

Offline Pineapple

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4105
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Pineapple hides under a Cloak.
  • Master of Cake
  • Awards: Silver DonorSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg447740#msg447740
« Reply #110 on: January 10, 2012, 10:41:14 pm »
I think the general consensus is Way Frickin' OP.
Useless post is useless? If it was UP, then there would be something wrong, as new cards always start out OP (it's easier to nerf cards than to buff cards).

Offline DSSCRA

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 268
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • DSSCRA hides under a Cloak.
  • Well it seemed like a good idea at the time.
  • Awards: Weekly Tournament Winner
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg447931#msg447931
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2012, 01:33:18 pm »
I suggest adding these conditions:

1. When a new sof is played, it absorbs all other (indeed can be only 1) sof already present on your field. The new sof has their combined hp and can turn to blackhole instantly when it exceed to critical value (I suggest reduce it to 40).
2. Using the ability delays it by 1 turn.

These prevent fractal/mitosis.
But I think scaling down the hps (initial/gain per use/maximum) is a bad idea since one can keep it reaching max hp much more easily (eg putting right on amount on poison then quint it).
This honestly sounds like a pretty great nerf maybe a bit of an over nerf but the numbers on this nerf are easily tweaked to nerf it more or less.
COME CLOSER AND I WILL UNLOCK YOUR INNER HAT.

League of legends obligatory referral link:
http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4e42b907a7432358026846

Skyter

  • Guest
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg448739#msg448739
« Reply #112 on: January 13, 2012, 06:42:40 pm »
it seems interesting at first sight, but many people complaining about it be OP? well itg shold start with 10, gain 5 and only give Black hole if having :gravity mark.
good ?

Offline RRQJ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 474
  • Reputation Power: 6
  • RRQJ is a Spark waiting for a buff.
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg448740#msg448740
« Reply #113 on: January 13, 2012, 06:52:06 pm »
it seems interesting at first sight, but many people complaining about it be OP? well itg shold start with 10, gain 5 and only give Black hole if having :gravity mark.
good ?
People are saying it's OP because it destroys permanents at no cost, not because you get a black hole after some point.  In fact, getting the black hole is what's keeping it from being even more OP than it is.

Offline mesaprotector

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1006
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • mesaprotector is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.mesaprotector is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.mesaprotector is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • Be creative!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake6th Trials - Master of LightBrawl #1 Winner - Team Nyan SharksSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg448901#msg448901
« Reply #114 on: January 14, 2012, 06:01:46 am »
it seems interesting at first sight, but many people complaining about it be OP? well itg shold start with 10, gain 5 and only give Black hole if having :gravity mark.
good ?
People are saying it's OP because it destroys permanents at no cost, not because you get a black hole after some point.  In fact, getting the black hole is what's keeping it from being even more OP than it is.
What if it could only destroy pillars and pendulums?
Blue Ranger reporting, ready for teamwork and silly songs!

Offline RRQJ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 474
  • Reputation Power: 6
  • RRQJ is a Spark waiting for a buff.
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg448942#msg448942
« Reply #115 on: January 14, 2012, 07:33:02 am »
it seems interesting at first sight, but many people complaining about it be OP? well itg shold start with 10, gain 5 and only give Black hole if having :gravity mark.
good ?
People are saying it's OP because it destroys permanents at no cost, not because you get a black hole after some point.  In fact, getting the black hole is what's keeping it from being even more OP than it is.
What if it could only destroy pillars and pendulums?
Then it'd probably be UP.

Offline Bonestorm

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 528
  • Country: gb
  • Reputation Power: 8
  • Bonestorm is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • This is not the end.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeWinner of Short Story Competition - Draconic Guardians
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg449059#msg449059
« Reply #116 on: January 14, 2012, 07:46:50 pm »
Nerf immodecks and make a card that is harmful to every other deck. Seems legit.  ???

Another issue that isn't widely argued in this thread is the starting hp, it makes this very rough to counter.

The speed of this card is going to be a serious gamebreaker.

Offline OdinVanguard

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4984
  • Reputation Power: 67
  • OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.
  • Keeping The Jotnar at bay
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg449170#msg449170
« Reply #117 on: January 15, 2012, 04:52:37 am »
I think having the accretion ability affect a random permanent rather than a specifically targeted permanent would make it less OP.
Another idea would be to make using accretion pause the shard for a 2 rounds (i.e. it would be like a low level self-basalisk blood).
Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
If your zombie plan is
kill -9 `ps l | awk '{print $2" "$3" "$9}' | grep "Z" | awk '{printf("%s ",$2)}'`
You might be a unix junky

Offline iancudorinmarian

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3772
  • Country: ro
  • Reputation Power: 67
  • iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.iancudorinmarian walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.
  • Master of Ponies.Eternally salty about War#11 SEC.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWar #12 Winner - Team Darkness12th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner11th Trials - Master of EntropySlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeWinner of TrinityWinner of Team PvP #710th Trials - Master of EntropySlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner9th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg451063#msg451063
« Reply #118 on: January 21, 2012, 11:40:18 am »
It's not OP because it's a shard
shard=rare

Offline Calindu

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3874
  • Country: ro
  • Reputation Power: 50
  • Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.Calindu brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Abomination is quite pretty
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerFourth Budosei of BudokanSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWar #9 Winner - Team Darkness8th Trials - Master of EntropyChampionship League 2/2013 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerColosseum II Champion7th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 3/2012 Winner6th Trials - Master of EntropyWinner of There Can Be Only One!Slice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeChampionship League 3/2011 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35191.msg451065#msg451065
« Reply #119 on: January 21, 2012, 12:01:46 pm »
Still waiting to see a +effect for gravity, as in, every rainbow can play those.
You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy.
War

 

anything
blarg: