an exploitable bug where people can use abilities and still get the quanta back through lag/fast clickingHow does that happen exactly? Anyone with programming knowledge can explain?
I presume it has to do with using the ability, then clicking cancel before the program executes the command to make the cancel option disappear, so it has already used the ability but the person triggers the refund by clicking cancel after. This only works generally if you can make the game lag. Again, this isnt possible because of him fixing it though, or else I wouldnt post about it :P.So does that mean the exploit is still available for targeted spell cards, where you do get a refund?
I'd also like to point out that this problem is not limited to creatures; try using Lobotomizer and cancel its effect to see what happens there. Bottom line: plan ahead before taking action.The bottom line is, no refunds for any quanta spent except those used in playing cards. So creature abilities, weapon abilities, other permanent abilities all won't refund. And even if the cost is zero (after playing shard of readiness or for other reasons) you won't get to use the ability again.
Heh that reason came from a joke by Zanz in the past. Here is where he explained the reasons for the old delay and also said the reason for the no cancel option : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10878.msg153185#msg153185I'd also like to point out that this problem is not limited to creatures; try using Lobotomizer and cancel its effect to see what happens there. Bottom line: plan ahead before taking action.The bottom line is, no refunds for any quanta spent except those used in playing cards. So creature abilities, weapon abilities, other permanent abilities all won't refund. And even if the cost is zero (after playing shard of readiness or for other reasons) you won't get to use the ability again.
I've also heard a different story about why this is; I heard that the lack of refunds is sort of a penalty zanz made for indecisiveness.
Actually, you can still lose quanta from trying to play Flying/Animate Weapon. If you do not have a weapon, the quantum is still used.You do lose quanta to Animate Weapon.
flying/animate weapon doesnt target and therefore doesnt check whether you have a weapon in your weapon slot or not. it is a unique ability that will simply replace a weapon with a creature version of that weapon (does not count towards destroy or steal which is why it can affect morning star/glory, protected weapons)Well it effects the weapon slot rather than the actual weapon.
if you dont have a weapon, the spell will still resolve, but no weapon-turned-creature will be created, as is the case if you have a full creature slots. the weapon will simply vanish
think of it as a 'global' spell somewhat similar to Rain Of Fire / Plague / Pandemonium
Actually you still lose a random quantum.Actually, you can still lose quanta from trying to play Flying/Animate Weapon. If you do not have a weapon, the quantum is still used.You do lose quanta to Animate Weapon.
Flying weapon, however, even though it makes the -1 animation, does not remove :air.
How about blessing it? Or even Heavy Armor?yep. any HP buff except basilisk blood works really well with oty. Even basilisk blood could be useful if oty is adrenalined so that it recovers from the delay.
Basilisk blood could be usefull, but 6 turns, would need to adrenaline it after doing that. On the other hand, blessing gives some attack, with no waiting turns, the only problem is Reverse Time. :PHow about blessing it? Or even Heavy Armor?yep. any HP buff except basilisk blood works really well with oty. Even basilisk blood could be useful if oty is adrenalined so that it recovers from the delay.
Does anyone know the percent of creatures that this guy can eat? Also, it works well with bone wall and graveyard. :death :gravityWhat do you mean by percent?
I think he meant what percentage of creatures in game can the otyugh eat with the original stats.Does anyone know the percent of creatures that this guy can eat? Also, it works well with bone wall and graveyard. :death :gravityWhat do you mean by percent?
Who cares? All thats really required is that you Heavy Armor it as many times as needed and it can eat anything that's not quinted or immaterial and being Gravity it's very sturdy against damage spells/skills as you do so, what more could Gravity ask for?I think he meant what percentage of creatures in game can the otyugh eat with the original stats.Does anyone know the percent of creatures that this guy can eat? Also, it works well with bone wall and graveyard. :death :gravityWhat do you mean by percent?
Officially the MOST USED CREATURE in the entire game! woot!The most used UPPED creature...
http://www.elementsthegame.com/liststats.php
Hey Pac- Man!Otyugh = R-Rated Pac-Man.
6th overall most used upgraded card, though Otyugh is pretty useless unupgraded...Officially the MOST USED CREATURE in the entire game! woot!The most used UPPED creature...
http://www.elementsthegame.com/liststats.php
Still, AWESOME :D
Cripples the Pharoh/Scarab A13 if he cant get his pharohs or Reverse time out quick enough...Almost got Osiris with it, only problem was the lack of Quint, so he got RT a bit :-X
I just noticed that... seems pretty scary for an otyughAnd things that eat you shouldn't be scary?
Er...since when did half bloods and false gods start using foil oty?Foil Oty is upgraded Oty. So if you see an upgraded Oty...it's got the new artwork.
Does anyone know the percent of creatures that this guy can eat? Also, it works well with bone wall and graveyard. :death :gravityYeah, my deck is based around Oty, Bone Yard, and Bone Wall. Also have an Aflatoxin to help me feed Oty/Wall and a Chimera for LOLOLOLUDED
And I was told I can't eat my problems away.You can't. Oty doesn't provide PC.
And I was told I can't eat my problems away.(mono :aether)
a blessing/momentum oty can get past dim shields and can hit the other guy pretty hard even if lobomized. there is nothing more amusing than seeing a dying aether desperately put up a dim shield only to find you got momentumAnd I was told I can't eat my problems away.(mono :aether)
you were saying?
OH-TEE-UGH.
Least, that's how I say it.
O-ti-ug.