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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365669#msg365669
« Reply #204 on: July 13, 2011, 11:46:40 pm »
I considered it but I wasn't sure if the 20% was applied to the HP or Damage. For example, when you cat a 10 HP frozen creature, does it count as a 12 HP creature (doing 11 damage) or do you calculate the damage for 10 HP (10) then increase it by 20% (12 damage)?

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365676#msg365676
« Reply #205 on: July 13, 2011, 11:52:28 pm »
I am pretty sure it increases the damage.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365684#msg365684
« Reply #206 on: July 14, 2011, 12:09:50 am »
It increases the damage.
Flinging frozen stuff at the enemy has been studied (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18774.msg255493.html).

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365696#msg365696
« Reply #207 on: July 14, 2011, 12:22:36 am »
The bonus of freeze is 30% and not 20% (Patch 1.26) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17535.0.html).
The effect of the new formula is normally <=5 damage points per creature (Titan: 30 damage -> 34 damage, frozen Titan: 39 dmg-> 44 dmg). For Titan, it means, that you have to throw 3 Titans- not 4 - to defeat a 100 HP enemy.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg370250#msg370250
« Reply #208 on: July 23, 2011, 02:16:58 pm »
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg398868#msg398868
« Reply #209 on: September 25, 2011, 02:52:31 am »
I am confused. Please explain.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg398872#msg398872
« Reply #210 on: September 25, 2011, 03:03:44 am »
I am confused. Please explain.
1) Play a creature
2) Play Catapult
3) Activate Catapult's skill
4) Target your creature
5) Your creature dies and the opponent takes damage from the bag of flesh to the face

The damage dealt is based on the hp of the sacrificed creature. (higher hp creatures deal more damage because they are heavier)
If the sacrificed creature was frozen the damage dealt is increased. (shards of ice to the face hurt)
Also creatures that are infected will poison the opponent on impact. (toxic flesh is toxic)
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg398879#msg398879
« Reply #211 on: September 25, 2011, 03:29:31 am »
I don't mean that I mean the formula part.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg398902#msg398902
« Reply #212 on: September 25, 2011, 04:09:01 am »
Formula is 100x/(100+x),
Meaning that it deals damage about the same as the creature when it is tossed at small hp (as lim[100x/(100+x)] as x approaches 0 is x. erm. You know what I mean)
And maximum is 100 when creature hp is at infinity (Again. lim[100x/(100+x)] as x approaches +infinity is 100)
100 is an asymptote, that's why you will never deal 100 damage.

The higher the hp, the lower the damage/hp ratio. So a small creature with 1hp will deal 1 damage (100/101 ~ 1) and a 100hp creature will deal 50 dmg (100/200 = 50)
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg406487#msg406487
« Reply #213 on: October 08, 2011, 05:03:03 pm »
this card is a little overpowered... just freeze flying titans and you have a quick 1tko

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg406610#msg406610
« Reply #214 on: October 08, 2011, 07:35:13 pm »
That's a three card combo(plus the Catapult/Trebuchet), from three different elements(two if you use Animate Weapon instead). Technically you could run the Freezes off your mark, but you still need the pillars and turns to accumulate the quanta for the Titan, Trebuchet, and activate the skill. If you're going for a kill, you have to do this twice. So, with optimal draws, this would be good. But not OP. Not even close.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg406647#msg406647
« Reply #215 on: October 08, 2011, 08:34:12 pm »
^I can vouch for that. Been experimenting with a duo (AWs) with Freezes run off the mark -- it's very difficult to get that four-card combo out in time. Adding healing in fact hurts the deck because it further decreases your chances of drawing the card you need. Doable? Maybe, if a more skilled deckbuilder tried his hand at it. But it's not even close to a gamebreaker.

 

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