Catapult | Trebuchet

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I tested Catapult last night. It could definitely use a buff. The cost is fine, but the damage output isn't nearly enough. I edited the formula slightly and found a possible scenario that would buff the damage output quite reasonably:

Suggested formula of damage: dmg=50*HP/(40+HP)

Health Damage 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 10 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 13 15 14 16 15 17 15 18 16 19 17 20 17 21 18 22 18 23 19 24 19 25 20

Health Damage 26 20 27 21 28 21 29 22 30 22 31 22 32 23 33 23 34 23 35 24 36 24 37 25 38 25 39 25 40 25 41 26 42 26 43 26 44 27 45 27 46 27 47 28 48 28 49 28 50 28

Health Damage 51 29 52 29 53 29 54 29 55 29 56 30 57 30 58 30 59 30 60 30 61 31 62 31 63 31 64 31 65 31 66 32 67 32 68 32 69 32 70 32 71 32 72 33 73 33 74 33 75 33

Isn't the damage rounded down? Meaning 1 damage rather than 2 from a creature of 1 hp.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

@theonlyrealbeef, the dmg is formula is there, it's not necessarily rounded down

[TheonlyrealBeef]

@theonlyrealbeef, the dmg is formula is there, it's not necessarily rounded down

Well it is rounded down in most programming languages when dividing integers, and would require a workaround to act differently. IRC it was also rounded down with the original formula.

[Kamietsu]

I tested Catapult last night. It could definitely use a buff. The cost is fine, but the damage output isn't nearly enough. I edited the formula slightly and found a possible scenario that would buff the damage output quite reasonably:

Suggested formula of damage: dmg=50*HP/(40+HP)

Health Damage 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 10 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 13 15 14 16 15 17 15 18 16 19 17 20 17 21 18 22 18 23 19 24 19 25 20

Health Damage 26 20 27 21 28 21 29 22 30 22 31 22 32 23 33 23 34 23 35 24 36 24 37 25 38 25 39 25 40 25 41 26 42 26 43 26 44 27 45 27 46 27 47 28 48 28 49 28 50 28

Health Damage 51 29 52 29 53 29 54 29 55 29 56 30 57 30 58 30 59 30 60 30 61 31 62 31 63 31 64 31 65 31 66 32 67 32 68 32 69 32 70 32 71 32 72 33 73 33 74 33 75 33

Isn't the damage rounded down? Meaning 1 damage rather than 2 from a creature of 1 hp.

@theonlyrealbeef, the dmg is formula is there, it's not necessarily rounded down

Well it is rounded down in most programming languages when dividing integers, and would require a workaround to act differently. IRC it was also rounded down with the original formula.

No, it is indeed rounded up. Zanz said so himself, and the math fits if you round up with the damage done when testing it.

[Zeru]

Adding +1 to the formula is not a workaround.

[The_Mormegil]

It's not that simple... but the workaround could be implemented with, like, 5 lines of code at worse.

[Zeru]

It's not that simple... but the workaround could be implemented with, like, 5 lines of code at worse.

Standard division rounds down. All you need to do is add 1. I don't know how difficult it is in the language Zanz is using, but in most I know, it's two symbols.

[The_Mormegil]

It's not that simple... but the workaround could be implemented with, like, 5 lines of code at worse.

Standard division rounds down. All you need to do is add 1. I don't know how difficult it is in the language Zanz is using, but in most I know, it's two symbols.

Yes, if you want to ALWAYS round up, that should be right... ^^ (I thought the point was rounding down for 0.0 - 0.5 and rounding up for 0.6 - 0.9 as is "usual")

[jmizzle7]

Most, if not all programming languages have both a floor() and ceiling() function regarding division. The latter is what is used to calculate the damage output for Catapult. It rounds up.

[Essence]

After testing a lot, I support jmizzle7.   The damage output is just slightly low; I believe firmly that Catapaulting 4 uninjured Elite Armagio should kill an opponent, which james'll sven's formula does without changing the card dramatically.

[Malduk]

After testing a lot, I support jmizzle7.   The damage output is just slightly low; I believe firmly that Catapaulting 4 uninjured Elite Armagio should kill an opponent, which james'll sven's formula does without changing the card dramatically.

I dont.
Damage indeed is, but should be, low. Catapult is not just a damage dealer, and damage it does is unblockable.
Not to mention that instant damage is much more valuable than damage over time.
I do think Catapult could use a buff, but as I previously said, I think its enough of a buff to allow it to toss more often.

[Raptor6789]

when sacrificing a creature, are the death affects triggered?
death affects as in those for condors, graveyards, etc.