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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg282030#msg282030
« Reply #192 on: March 02, 2011, 11:58:31 pm »
not only does launching a frozen creature to 20% more damage, it can also freeze the enemy weapon.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg359549#msg359549
« Reply #193 on: July 02, 2011, 03:00:22 am »
Damage has been changed in patch 1.28 that brought us Arena.
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[14:11:17] zanzarino: Ok, one more small patch to the beta: I just added a description of the arena (only for the first time you open it)
[14:11:33] zanzarino: And moved the max damage of catapults up to 100
[14:12:49] willng3: So wait, does that modify the damage formula?
[14:13:15] zanzarino: yes the 75 is now 100 in that formula
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg359561#msg359561
« Reply #194 on: July 02, 2011, 03:53:16 am »
This buff makes me happy in strange places.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg359918#msg359918
« Reply #195 on: July 02, 2011, 10:47:40 pm »
This buff makes me happy in strange places.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg360088#msg360088
« Reply #196 on: July 03, 2011, 09:35:21 am »
This buff makes me happy in strange places.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg360510#msg360510
« Reply #197 on: July 04, 2011, 09:34:47 am »
Osiris just got even harder ...

And speaking of Osiris, his possession of Catapult makes him counter CCYB heavily - he flings frozen and antimattered creatures. For me, it's the highest Pulverizing priority.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg360517#msg360517
« Reply #198 on: July 04, 2011, 09:52:45 am »
If you are clever enough you wait to have pulvy and destroy those cata before playing AM.
He didn't flings frozen creature if he has empty creature slot if I good remember.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg360521#msg360521
« Reply #199 on: July 04, 2011, 10:03:43 am »
If you are clever enough you wait to have pulvy and destroy those cata before playing AM.
He didn't flings frozen creature if he has empty creature slot if I good remember.
Osiris is easy with CCYB.
Yes, that's what I do too, but often you don't draw it in time.

And I believe he does fling them immediately after they are frozen.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg360535#msg360535
« Reply #200 on: July 04, 2011, 11:02:49 am »
Yeah one time I had my two pulvy in my last two cards I crappily lost ^^

I dunno how works the AI with fling/frozen creature
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365608#msg365608
« Reply #201 on: July 13, 2011, 09:12:38 pm »
Doesn't seem like there is a new table according to chat so I'm making one.

Table of Damage
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Damage Formula: dmg=100*HP/(100+HP)
HealthDamage
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I rounded up since that was how the damage was calculated the old way, so 13.04 became 14, and 27.007 became 28. I'm not sure if this is how it's supposed to be done so correct me if it isn't.

And here's a graph comparing the old values to the new. Apologies for the step-like-ness of the graphs, I used the integer values.


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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365615#msg365615
« Reply #202 on: July 13, 2011, 09:28:19 pm »
I have yet to see a chart that mentions the bonus frozen damage.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg365666#msg365666
« Reply #203 on: July 13, 2011, 11:43:43 pm »
The bonus is usually negligible, isn't it?  How many people actually make a deck to freeze their own creatures to catapult?  Steam Machines?

 

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