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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227081#msg227081
« Reply #144 on: December 18, 2010, 04:16:06 am »
I think giving it effects similar to voodoo doll like possibly freezing your opponent would be great. Then you dont need a deck based around it, and it be useful. Or lowering max hp by at least a portion of the damage done.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227087#msg227087
« Reply #145 on: December 18, 2010, 04:31:21 am »
Could break pillars depending on hp of creature, bigger creatures hits bigger area so like 1 pillar for each 15 HP or something like that, would reinforce earth/gravity synergy and also greatly increase synergy with entropy (discord/denial) and darkness (denial/devour).

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227145#msg227145
« Reply #146 on: December 18, 2010, 06:07:25 am »
Wait.... frozen gets 20% more damage, and infected deals that much poison too? That's awesome....

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227149#msg227149
« Reply #147 on: December 18, 2010, 06:18:09 am »
Wait.... frozen gets 20% more damage, and infected deals that much poison too? That's awesome....
frozen creatures = 30% chance to freeze weapon
petrified (delayed) creatures = plus 20% damage
infected creatures = plus that much poison damage

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227151#msg227151
« Reply #148 on: December 18, 2010, 06:21:42 am »
petrified (delayed) creatures = plus 20% damage
Awesome synergy with Basilisk Blood right there

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227154#msg227154
« Reply #149 on: December 18, 2010, 06:24:02 am »
It's kinda gimmicky though. A frozen 30 hp Armagio only does 4 more damage than an unfrozen one, so it's not worth going out of your way to freeze creatures before throwing them. Same thing with poison; while you can poison your creatures before throwing them, it's better to just poison your opponent directly.

They might be worth using on Voodoo Dolls though. Freeze will also freeze your opponent's weapon, and poison is effectively doubled.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227171#msg227171
« Reply #150 on: December 18, 2010, 07:06:08 am »
This card is a good counter to antimatter, and i see it being used against team :entropy in war#3 frequently. Tho its a little sad that death can't kill its own creatures while gravity can.
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« Reply #151 on: December 18, 2010, 01:35:46 pm »
Catapult is not very good as it is so I think it needs to be improved.

Idea 1: I think when you click catapult on a target the catapult should combine the targets attack and defence as damage to the opponent.

For example:

10|10 Golden Dragon + Catapult = 20 Damage to the opponent's health.

1|25 Armagio + Catapult = 26 Damage to the opponent's health.

This would make some cooler decks to play with. It won't be too powerful because some Creature Control can lower the creature's health and/or kill it. Also Miracles and Heals will help.

Idea 2: I think Catapult should be able to target creatures OR the opponent's health.
For example:

Otyugh is about to gobble up a 3|2 Fallen Elf. 3|2 Fallen Elf + Catapult = 5 Damage. Which is enough to kill an upped Otyugh that hasn't eaten anything.

This would allow some defence.

Post your comments and please say which idea you are talking about.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227301#msg227301
« Reply #152 on: December 18, 2010, 01:41:20 pm »
Catapult is not very good as it is and I think it needs to be improved.

Idea 1: I think when you click catapult on a target the catapult should combine the targets attack and defence as damage to the opponent.

For example:

10|10 Golden Dragon + Catapult = 20 Damage to the opponent's health.

1|25 Armagio + Catapult = 26 Damage to the opponent's health.

This would make some cooler decks to play with. It won't be too powerful because some Creature Control can lower the creature's health and/or kill it. Also Miracles and Heals will help.

Idea 2: I think Catapult should be able to target creatures OR the opponent's health.
For example:

Otyugh is about to gobble up a 3|2 Fallen Elf. 3|2 Fallen Elf + Catapult = 5 Damage. Which is enough to kill an upped Otyugh that hasn't eaten anything.

This would allow some defence.

Post your comments and please say which idea you are talking about.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227308#msg227308
« Reply #153 on: December 18, 2010, 01:50:05 pm »
This is a utility card, plain and simple. It can make use of a BB or AM creature that would otherwise be inert, or worse.. helping your enemy. It doesn't need to be anything more than that. Now is it worth it? meh... maybe.

The whole Malignant Cell, Amber nymph thing sounds interesting... 

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227338#msg227338
« Reply #154 on: December 18, 2010, 02:19:54 pm »
BB will be more interesting. BB an armagio, and you will have it at 50 HP. thats 30 damage + 20% (6) so 36 damage from a BB's armagio. That sounds better.  I still think they should have a chance of freezing the opponents weapon though.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg227501#msg227501
« Reply #155 on: December 18, 2010, 06:52:48 pm »
flying titans and BB will now be insanely powerful each titan will do 35 or 36 damage per each have 3 of these and 3 titans out with bb and that is instant win or flying titan deck with earth nymph and gravity pull now we are talking about a new fg killer.  you can bb an already bbed creature right i forget have not played much with bb

 

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