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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16584#msg16584
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 11:02:01 pm »
true thought this couldnt be unhelpful for denial decks even with just taking three away :) that would definaly hurt your openent if you had some good devourers with it ^_~ sorry also i would do earth for quakes and the devourers effects :)

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16585#msg16585
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 11:03:21 pm »
Darkness/gravity?

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16637#msg16637
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2010, 02:21:27 am »
this card looks to be a top50 killer in my opinion.  lol

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16638#msg16638
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2010, 02:34:26 am »
Coinich, i was answering to icybraker :) i meant, if you splash this in a rainbow deck to use this against other rainbows, they're not screwed as long as they carry some too :)
I went back and reread what I said, and I can't figure out what I meant, so just ignore me for now.   :-X

This is somewhat situational, because it can heal 3 or 6 damage for 3 quanta in the wrong situation; even the fabled Holy Light heals 5 for 1 or even 0.

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16644#msg16644
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2010, 03:48:27 am »
No one's figured it out?

Flying discord.

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16647#msg16647
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2010, 04:19:36 am »
No one's figured it out?

Flying discord.
Well done, sir.

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16665#msg16665
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2010, 12:24:00 pm »
That does deserve kudos right there, doesn't it.

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16680#msg16680
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2010, 01:45:36 pm »
Gravity/entropy with 6 flying discords and these... kicks any mono/duo that he faces...

Nah.

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16705#msg16705
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2010, 03:55:57 pm »
Well if we assume this card is here as a defense/attack against rainbow decks, why does only >>gravity<< get it? Wouldn't all other elements deserve it as well?

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg16707#msg16707
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2010, 04:02:52 pm »
A black hole is clearly a gravity effect...

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg17365#msg17365
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2010, 06:13:50 pm »
i don't like this card idea at all.

this is in my opinion a intermixture of the different mark/color themes. Quanta manipulation goes so long for chaos/purple and to heal yourself you have to mix up with "healing colors" like green, black or white.

to put the favorite abilities of such colors into other colors destroyes for me the whole idea of having so many different colors to choose from. if you keep going this development you end up with mono color card decks which use/cast all dedicated special abilities of other colors. each color should (and have to) stick with the initial idea of this color along with their dedicated special abilities!

despite this i think this card is to powerful. ignoring the rainbow deck killer abilities, so far the most decks i have seen (not pure beginner decks) uses more than just one color (3 are quite common). and with this fact in mind you get for only 4 quanta around 9 health and absorb also 9 quanta from your opponent. combine this with the discord weapon and this is even getting worse ... not talking about what you will get if your opponent playes a rainbow deck.

the same and the more this criticism goes for the new graviton nymph.

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Re: New Card: Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1894.msg17367#msg17367
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 06:22:34 pm »
Judging from your post and from you are new to the forum you're too inexperienced too make such comments. Don't take it personally, but a person should have quite a lot of experience before expressing such a harsh judgement on a card which is being implemented. Rainbow decks ARE too powerful if compared to mono. They NEED nerfs. That's why you get the best results against one. And while darkness has light periodical quanta DRANING (and entropy has only the discord effect, and no one is ever going to use discord in a deck just for the synergy with this card) this card offers lowish to moderate quanta DESTROYING (you don't get back the quanta) versus mono/duo, with low healing too... and nice quanta drain (which is not a problem anyway vs rainbow decks, that have 50+ quanta of each element in midgame) with GREAT healing versus rainbow, and that's the way it's meant to be used.

 

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