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Title: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: Scaredgirl on January 09, 2010, 08:28:10 am
(http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/AmberNymph.png)(http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/Upgrade.png)(http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/GravityNymph.png)

Oracle prediction: Your touch saps energy but motivates you. Use it on your more apathetic victims for best effect.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Silkenfist on January 09, 2010, 09:53:18 am
My mind is not set on the value of the nymphs yet but this effect looks great. Fits the gravity theme and it is definitely useful. Maybe it will even make Gravity/Earth denial viable. Can we expect to see it as a spell on its own someday, too?
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: jmizzle7 on January 09, 2010, 10:21:02 am
That is a nasty, nasty ability. I love these Nymph cards! :D
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: YoYoBro on January 09, 2010, 11:40:00 am
Vs rainbow deck= -36 quanta, +36 healing per turn. Nuff' said.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Silkenfist on January 09, 2010, 12:52:37 pm
So? It's not like Rainbow couldn't be nerfed a bit.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: YoYoBro on January 09, 2010, 02:38:11 pm
So? It's not like Rainbow couldn't be nerfed a bit.
I didn't say i don't like it :O with "nuff' said" I meant this card is awesome... i also think rainbow should be nerfed down... POWER TO THE MONO/DUO DECKS, i say :D
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: coinich on January 09, 2010, 02:45:51 pm
I missed the fact that this takes from ALL elements; thats quite a neat trick.  Something of the anti-Supernova.  My only worry is that if you run into a mono deck its effectiveness is quite diminished.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: icybraker on January 09, 2010, 04:29:28 pm
... Mono-Gravity, meet Rainbow. And destroy it.

Very nice card; helps with balancing. However, I would expect more health for a Gravity card; this thing can be killed by a Fire Storm.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Sigh on January 09, 2010, 04:37:12 pm
I think that's just a theme with all of the nymphs: easily kiled, but awesome ability.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: bobcamel on January 09, 2010, 04:47:53 pm
Against Mono - heals 3, deals practically invisible amount of quantadrain
Against Dual - heals 4-6, drains most of the splash element and insignificant amount of main
Against Rambo - heals up to 36, drains heavily as well

Good thing it's easily killed. Imma start packing Thunderbolts/Rewinds in my Rambo
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: YoYoBro on January 09, 2010, 05:16:52 pm
I think all nymphs need to be quintessenced/immortalized/protected as soon as they're played.. they're not quite as resilient as dragons...
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: jmizzle7 on January 09, 2010, 07:17:57 pm
Yes, another reason why Quintessence is insane. It will only get better as Zanz adds new and better creatures.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Uncle Jellyfish on January 09, 2010, 07:46:19 pm
Perhaps the upgraded version will have four or more HP, and will be able to survive a single Firestorm. This card in Earth/Gravity with Pulvy and Quickstands would be quite deadly. Perhaps splash Time and make the deck bigger so you don't need to worry about balancing two pillar types, which you'd ultimately have to do.

Mark of Light
12x Gravity Tower
8x Stone Tower
4-6x Sundials (upgraded)
3x Amber Nymph
4-6x Quicksand
2x Pulverizer
2x Diamond Shield
3x Protect Artifact
4x Graboid
3x Heavy Armor

Total of 47 cards (you could either have 6 dials and 4 Qsands, or vice versa).

Might be viable, and would probably be one of the strongest Denial decks if it was tweaked and improved, lol. This is just coming off of the top of my head without any testing. =/
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: PuppyChow on January 09, 2010, 08:04:48 pm
Good luck getting three amber nymphs. Supposedly they will be ultra-rare.

The main problem with your deck is you have either no time to evolve graboids, or no light to hasten dials :P. You can't have two marks.

Anyway, the other problem with that is that dials aren't really viable for card drawing anymore. Because each takes up a space in your deck, when you draw one, you could have drawn something else. You make this loss up with the single hasten you get, but overall you get no extra cards drawn. All you gain is the single turn of stasis.

Hence, imo, a 36 card deck with 6 dials is really like a 30 card deck. A 47 card deck like the one you said is really like a 41 card deck, with no card drawing. Therefore it would be prone to bad draws.

I'm not that makes the deck bad. My flying glory deck is 45ish cards with just 6 dials for card drawing too, and does pretty good.

With all that said, I'm thinking my gravity/earth denial just got a whole lot more gravity heavy. Or maybe gravity/earth/dark quantum denial.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Bloodshadow on January 10, 2010, 01:44:47 am
Guys, remember, those Nymphs are LEGENDARY. They are only created by the legendary card Nymph's Tear. I doubt that they'll be even made into standalone cards.

So I assume that the Alchemy card for Gravity would be Black Hole? Sounds weird...
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Kamietsu on January 10, 2010, 02:19:43 am
Guys, remember, those Nymphs are LEGENDARY. They are only created by the legendary card Nymph's Tear. I doubt that they'll be even made into standalone cards.

So I assume that the Alchemy card for Gravity would be Black Hole? Sounds weird...
Actully Zanz was thinking of making all 12 of the nymphs (when the other's are fully done and what not) into special cards that will be available as a stand alone card. Though they will be amazingly rare/hard to get, something along those lines. I forget exactly what Zanz was thinking, but something like that.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: assassim on January 10, 2010, 03:01:14 am
None, of these cards would survive long against a rainbow deck, these would be the first to be eaten/mutated imo. No rainbow deck user would be stupid enough to let something with such a strong ability live.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Essence on January 10, 2010, 03:58:15 am
For the second or third time in as many places, Bloodshadow: Zanz has said in chat that he's strongly leaning toward making the Nymphs available as non-legendary cards.  See the thread "Nymph Rarity".
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: PuppyChow on January 10, 2010, 05:30:06 am
Blood, Zanz is, as far as I know, thinking that the nymphs will be ultra-rare cards.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Uncle Jellyfish on January 10, 2010, 07:49:12 am
Good luck getting three amber nymphs. Supposedly they will be ultra-rare.

The main problem with your deck is you have either no time to evolve graboids, or no light to hasten dials :P. You can't have two marks.
Didn't read everything, just want to reply to this now. I originally had Mark of Time, then changed it to Light but forgot to remove the Graboids. Oh well. =/
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: YoYoBro on January 10, 2010, 11:22:21 am
It is :)
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: slovenc555 on January 30, 2010, 11:45:17 am
Guys, remember, those Nymphs are LEGENDARY. They are only created by the legendary card Nymph's Tear.
Nope, got one hatching from an fate egg. Grey nymph.

Aren't ambers fossilised tree resin? As in "Solidified into stone"? It makes more sense if ambef nymph would be a time creature.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Tea is good on January 31, 2010, 01:50:05 am
HMMM, if super nova takes adds 2 quanta to each element, why should black hole take away three?
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Tea is good on January 31, 2010, 01:50:49 am
Guys, remember, those Nymphs are LEGENDARY. They are only created by the legendary card Nymph's Tear.
Nope, got one hatching from an fate egg. Grey nymph.

Aren't ambers fossilised tree resin? As in "Solidified into stone"? It makes more sense if ambef nymph would be a time creature.
I think it's supposed to mean the Amber color?
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Sigh on January 31, 2010, 01:46:05 pm
HMMM, if super nova takes adds 2 quanta to each element, why should black hole take away three?
Because although it look like it, its not supposed to be the opposite of nova/supernova. Plus only taking away 2 each would be kinda weakish.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: becarem on February 04, 2010, 07:13:09 pm
Well, then.  With this and Black Hole, my pet deck strategy of trying to make a half rainbow deck feasible now has two cards specifically designed to stop it.  Ah well...I'll think of it as a Purify to poison decks, I suppose.

So, for balance's sake, when and how is Earth/Gravity denial ever going to be dealt as harsh a counter, I wonder?  ^.^ Heh heh...
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: The_Aegis on February 11, 2010, 07:24:59 pm
I love it, but I think it's a bit overpowered, expecially if taken at the beginning...

In the hand of a FG (Like Dark Matter) it's pure brokeness...


Maybe making his skill more expansive?
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Deedle on February 19, 2010, 08:01:00 am
Finally The Oracle gave me a Nymph and it was this one  8)
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: Deedle on February 19, 2010, 04:50:46 pm
If you get this thing out against a Rainbow deck somewhat early its a massacre.
Title: Re: New Card: Amber Nymph
Post by: 918273645 on March 09, 2010, 10:14:08 pm
Rainbow needs mor counters like this.  :gravity = Win
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: genraenera on May 22, 2010, 02:25:42 pm
I got one of these a while back and use it in my rainbow against ai5, it wrecks.  For some reason the AI thinks a fallen elf or most mutants are a bigger threat than the nymph, so i just get to smash on their quanta turn after turn.  Once I got it out against Chaos Lord when the lord had his dim fields up, so each turn I stole 36 quanta (equivalent to doing 36 damage) and healed 36.  It we like having a vampire with 36 damage per turn :P.
Its kinda a shame that the upgraded version is practically the same as unuppgraded though.
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: Avenger on May 23, 2010, 09:47:12 am
I like this one. With her sister the purple nymph, they saved my life many times. They are a good combo.

Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: Ant-n-ero on June 03, 2010, 09:21:41 pm
this card is pretty beasty!
mid-late game it is a source of healing
early on however is a good way to deny the enemy of quanta.... mix a few of these and BHs ( :gravity ) with EQs ( :earth ) and you have a solid mana drain deck!
for added effects add in Pests

Challenge: Can anyone make a decent quanta absorbing deck with decent win rate against HBs?
To include such cards as: Black Hole, Gravity Nymph, Pests, EQs etc

also you can link to pages that already contains a deck like this
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: Italy2 on June 04, 2010, 12:02:42 am
This card is awesome for an user of a gravity deck.  It has a great ability... :gravity
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: Ryan666 on October 07, 2010, 07:34:55 pm
I agree that this card is amazing.
:fire
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: shwiggles on November 02, 2010, 12:13:35 am
I have recently been endowed with two of these babies, but I have yet to find a use for them.  I've seen a few decks around, but nothing worth pursuing.  Does anyone have a good idea to incorporate a pair of these guys into a deck?
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: EvaRia on November 02, 2010, 12:15:13 am
Discord and BH is the perfect deck for these.
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: Ant-n-ero on November 02, 2010, 07:38:42 am
$$$man's Abusal-Bow
just replace 2 BHs with the 2 nymphs :D
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14966.msg203321#msg203321


althought there may be quanta issues :/ hrmm, didn't think about that :/
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: 918273645 on November 03, 2010, 06:01:29 am
I got one of these as a pet today.


Stupid ?.?.? pet. -_-
Title: Re: Amber Nymph | Gravity Nymph
Post by: MilitiaDude on June 30, 2012, 01:55:03 am
Not much of a difference, but i dissagree as i hate Nymphs!  ?_?
blarg: