Oracle : Graviton

[kobisjeruk]

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Try this deck and add 3 lobos. Could work due to AI not being smart enough to blow up cloaks

have you tested it?

many times people come here and post their 'suggestion' without actually test it themselves
do not be one of them, please (more so when we can now input any FG deck to test our counter)

[bruce 1337]

steal their grav shield (if you havent found any yourself) or weapon (if you have)
save antimatters for chargers, lobo everything else (dont put AM on creatures with >5 HP b/c you wont be healed if you have grav.shield in play)

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My main problem with this deck was too low damage. Ye i know i should add some more dmg like forest spectre maybe, but i wanted to test this deck and it doesnt work too good imo tho. Heres my fight:

[Jaymanfu]

Ive won with it many times actually, graviton has no way of getting life back so you don't need a ton of dmg to kill him. Forest spectre wouldn't work because once it got past 5 hp his wall would just block it.

[Higurashi]

He's still right: I've played 4 games against Gravyton (sic) with that deck and lost 2 due to too slow damage. The deck doesn't really suffer from another Fire Spirit.

[johannhowitzer]

OK, I've been testing variations on this deck concept for around an hour and can't seem to make any headway, so I'm posting so people can join in the tweaking process.

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I started out using Pandemonium/Voodoo Doll, which stalled him for a VERY long time, but didn't really have the punch necessary to win before deckout, and also lacked healing, so he wore me down every time.  Threw in some Antimatters, which usually just sat in my hand for a while, and I was having huge quantum issues, so I bloated the deck to 40 to fit more pillars and still carry the copies of other cards I would need to pull it off.

With Pandemonium, some surprisingly helpful things can happen, though far too infrequently to be reliable.  A few times I actually PU'd an Otyugh and stole one Gravity Tower, letting me eat everything in sight... but I still didn't win that one, he got the kill when he brought out Titan.

AM/LS seems to be very stunted by his Otyughs.  I have managed to mutate or LS his Oty after AM/LS'ing a well-grown Firemaster... they still don't last long enough.  Steal works on Gravity Shield, but Pandemonium was my only way to deal with Momentum.  (That was the reason I was lasting so long with it.)  Nightmare was pretty cool - he spends his whole deck, and it's possible to stall him with only one Firemaster out, letting it grow very large before AM/LS.

This is showing promise, but it's lacking some tweaking, maybe a few extra pairs of eyes will spot something I'm not.

[willng3]

Well that could have gone better...

I used the deck in the OP but didn't draw a single Quint until I was well into half of my deck.  As a matter of fact, I didn't start drawing any of my healing cards until I had drawn about 10 cards from my deck.  So I basically panicked since it looked like he was just going to steamroll me.  Played one Fire Spectre early on, Graviton just happened to have a Firestorm in his hand.  Played the second one later on when I was halfway into my deck; it got Gravity Force'd.  Literally the next turn I drew a Quint.  Someone's idea of a cruel joke I'm sure.  Another Fire Spirit/Spectre probably wouldn't hurt.

[Avenger]

I use this (just one more eternity)

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[xBerzerk]

Game 5 - Traded all Lightning for Demons, removed one dragon and both Lycanthropes.  Going to drop BE too - while it can be used in combo with Antimatter, Titan isn't a very big concern against the usual amount of healing.  VERY close to establishing a stable amount of healing.  Don't do what I did and Antimatter an Armagio just before a Charger comes out!

Game 6 - ZERO quints in the first ten or so turns.  Definitely bumping it up to 6, could not handle the tidal wave of Firemasters.

Game 7 - easy victory, even with average draw.  Only three things are necessary to gain tempo on him: early Demon+Quint, and early Antimatter.

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No EM really possible if he gets Titan out, but it does the job handily.  I don't think my health ever dipped below 50.  You could certainly win with a worse draw, he got stuff out pretty quickly in this game.  I don't recommend losing any Dragons, or you may deckout too often.  Antimatter is definitely more important than Demons, it's your only source of healing and with even one -7 Charger you can last a while.

Recommended order of upgrades: Antimatter, Quintessence, Pillars, then Demons (which are hardly worth it).  DO NOT upgrade the Dragons or they will be stopped by his shield.



Parting thought before I go rock Graviton's world on my real account: Antimatter is one of the most useful cards ever for FGs.  Considering adding a couple to my rainbow!

Just used the above deck against Graviton.

Didn't get a Quintessence until 10th turn or so. Next Quintessence came at 16th. Lost by inches.

Results:
(http://vc22.com/hostbug/lostbyinches.bmp)

[Higurashi]

Aye, it's iffy, but that's unavoidable. I've beaten him several times with that deck, so major props to johann. Very well done!

[YoungSot]

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I really like the consistency of this deck vs typical rainbow counters. It's only 30 cards, and has many copies of all the crucial cards, so it gives more reliable results (esp. if the AM and Quints are upped). Props to Johann.

[Higurashi]

no rare, no upgrade, EM win

I've always wanted to get a Quinted Purple against Gravyton just to dominate him thoroughly. I had most of this deck upped, but it did work like a charm. Getting Aether Nymphs to Quint a TU'd Firemaster and do heavy damage on their own is what I love the most about it.

[Tea is good]

Played this, plus one tower by accident. Drew 1 tower, got it exploded, deleted a card next turn, drew 2 more towers, both exploded, lost game.

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