Treldon's Arena [Gold] (not really...)

[Treldon]

Okay guys, here you will see a list of decks that would probably work in Bronze, even Silver, but will all fail in Gold due to the lack of upped cards or to get them. C'est la vie

So the point of the topic is to learn from your responses, so please comment 

First entry: Fractal

Level 42 Health Points 198/200 Max Upgraded 0 Oracle Upgraded 0 Mark Multiplier 1X Card(s) per Turn 2X Deck Size 2X

Win:Loss 1:5 Electrum Earned 9 Rank 455 Rating -139 Age (days) 1 Thumbs Up? 0 Thumbs Down? 1

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622 622 622 622 622 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 61t 61t 61u 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pt

The idea was pretty straightforward, a simple Devtal deck. Probably too simple - or perhaps not simple enough...

Next up: Black Hole

[flyingcat]

If you chuck all your points onto dexterity and HP, you don't really need upped cards. With all the extra bonuses you can get away with completely unupped. If you're still unsatisfied, go grind FG's.

[CuCN]

The AI always uses Fractal on the cheapest creature it can play, which is a devourer in this deck (unless the opponent is playing RoL/Hope or a mono air deck, when the AI would go for a RoL or damselfly). that's something to keep in mind when building fractal decks for the arena.

[kaempfer13]

quanta denial decks have to get going really fast, so it probably would have been a lot more successfull with 2x mark. (a turn 2 devourer changes so many things)
Also, if you are designing fractalbased decks you are pretty much fucked if the opponent plays Ray of Light (it's the AIs fault).
Fractal also tends to clog your hand (thats the Oracles fault).
Dimshield doesnt really fulfill a role in this deck, so just scrap it next time.
Also, it's only natural that an arenadeck with only 42 points to spent has a harder time to get wins than one with 59 points.

[flyingcat]

Yes, it might struggle more, but it can still win quite a few because of the massive HP boost and dexterity. Did you consider using black holes and devourers? Might make some people rage quit before playing it...

[Treldon]

Yes, it might struggle more, but it can still win quite a few because of the massive HP boost and dexterity. Did you consider using black holes and devourers? Might make some people rage quit before playing it...

Nasty  8) No, actually I haven't thought of that one, but will certainly try it if either card comes up again


And I did not know before that the AI would Fractal the cheapest creature. Quite logical in a way, but really changes things...

[flyingcat]

Sorry if this is a little off topic, but does anyone know the nightmare priority for the AI? Is it the most expensive creature that's targetable? Thanks!
EDIT: That should be an off, not of.

[Treldon]

Sorry if this is a little off topic, but does anyone know the nightmare priority for the AI? Is it the most expensive creature that's targetable? Thanks!
EDIT: That should be an off, not of.

I am sure we will get an answer sooner or later

On to the next failure:

Level 42 Health Points 186/190 Max Upgraded 5 Oracle Upgraded 1 Mark Multiplier 1X Card(s) per Turn 2X Deck Size 2X

Win:Loss 3:7 Electrum Earned 27 Rank 546 Rating -177 Age (days) 2 Thumbs Up? 0 Thumbs Down? 3

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74f 55v 55v 55v 55v 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55m 55m 55m 55m 560 56i 56i 56i 576 576 576 576 576 74b 7n2 7n2 7n2 8pl

Started out well, with 3:1, but downhill ever since. I guess I tried to cram too many functions in it again

Next up: Mummy

[flyingcat]

Probably should have stuck with straight quanta denial with purple dragons for the finish and/or antimatter. No Mono-Death SoSac pls? For the sake of all the grinders?

[kaempfer13]

The only thing that doesnt really fit in there is the Armagio. I think the problem was that discords tended to show up too late and that unupped DBH is a lot less impressive anyway. When I submit DBH in platinum I use triple entropy mark and upped gravity towers to almost guarantee turn 2 discord followed by black holes or SoFos.

[Treldon]

Probably should have stuck with straight quanta denial with purple dragons for the finish and/or antimatter. No Mono-Death SoSac pls? For the sake of all the grinders?

No, no mono-death SoSac. I am not that cruel - nor do I have enough SoSac for that yet

The only thing that doesnt really fit in there is the Armagio. I think the problem was that discords tended to show up too late and that unupped DBH is a lot less impressive anyway. When I submit DBH in platinum I use triple entropy mark and upped gravity towers to almost guarantee turn 2 discord followed by black holes or SoFos.

Yeah, the Armagio's were supposed to serve as shields for this deck, but probably hurt more. Without them and the Chimera it might have been nicer. There is always a next time...


The mummies are doing okay for now (3-3), so I won't change the deck yet, unless it goes diving by the time I go to work

[Treldon]

After a while, the new entry

Level 45 Health Points 139/155 Max Upgraded 5 Oracle Upgraded 1 Mark Multiplier 2X Card(s) per Turn 2X Deck Size 2X

Win:Loss 9:10 Electrum Earned 117 Rank 474 Rating -147 Age (days) 4 Thumbs Up? 4 Thumbs Down? 5

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It did better than I expected - after a bit of fixing on day 1 it was in the positive until this morning

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