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The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071107#msg1071107
« on: May 17, 2013, 01:44:40 pm »
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Totally inspired from Absol's 20-Pillar 30-card Deck
No upped stats are needed for this deck, but if you want to, HPs are the first thing, then comes Dexterity then Mark x2 (x3 would be overkill, but if you're level >80, feel free to, it won't hurt.
Theorically this is playable from bronze onward, but it is pretty hard for you to get 6 Pharaohs and 6 SoRs while being Level 20 or less, unless you really want to.
It's a simple rush, I think that the AI will pretty much always play it good. At worst it will use Readiness on Scarabs, but only if there aren't other Pharaohs on the field that can use their skill that turn.

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071110#msg1071110
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 01:52:14 pm »
This will have trouble with shields, e.g. a Diamond shield can block most of its damage, but any good shield is a problem. You could add some SoFo or Chimera to solve that problem, or even a few catapults can do the trick.
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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071121#msg1071121
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 02:46:34 pm »
This will have trouble with shields, e.g. a Diamond shield can block most of its damage, but any good shield is a problem. You could add some SoFo or Chimera to solve that problem, or even a few catapults can do the trick.
Notice it's a farm, it's not meant to win all of the times, just enough to get it to last some more games.
I'd rather go for Dune Scorpion+Momentum if I wanted to make this a little better.

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071127#msg1071127
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 03:17:32 pm »
too much quanta producing, tho i pharoah is enough if you draw 1. So, i would rather have the 21st-23rd pillars changed to hourglasses. Actually, 2 shields for the delay would seem good.
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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071168#msg1071168
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 05:25:38 pm »
That'd only be Absol's deck but Arena-ready, wouldn't it?
I prefered to keep it like this, with 6 Pharaohs and 6 SoR just for high chances of spinning it.
Doing some math (assuming Pillars will never be spun, just because it is too unlikely to calculate it fastly), it'd have a 50% probability of spinning a card, a rare one, in just one spin. With the regular three spins, it'd be a whooping 150%, basically 2 Pharaohs or SoRs every 3 spins.
If I wanted it to be really likely to spin a card, I'd lose my SoRs and only keep Pharaohs, maybe with 2 Procrastinations and getting the probability to (with procrastinations), it'd be a 75% per spin. Mathematically speaking, out of 3 spins you should get 2 pharaohs, but that's not worth it.

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071188#msg1071188
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 06:53:31 pm »
Technically speaking, you can't have 150%....

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071199#msg1071199
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 08:02:57 pm »
Simplifing it for the non-math lover.
Instead, it'd be 77,5%

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071219#msg1071219
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 09:22:17 pm »
I had a moderately successful monotime BL deck that used only rares and ultrarares.  I didn't realize it until an opponent asked me something like 'wtf do you even have any nonrares in that deck?  -checks list...- uh, no... :p'  It had nymphs, pharaohs, SoRs, and eternities.  It made me wonder how many decent rare-only decks you could make, and I thought about doing a series on it in the deckbuilding thread, but I was too lazy to ever make it.

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071224#msg1071224
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 09:50:20 pm »
My favorite biting farm has always been SoSe/SoFo/QT, though it's kinda hard to successfully submit that one to arena. SoSe/(arena card)/QT/mark of arena card element works pretty well just in general (as a farm, I mean) if you spin a nymph or a squid or whatever and want to submit a farm.

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Re: The Ultimate Biting Arena Farm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49268.msg1071285#msg1071285
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2013, 12:59:19 am »
My favorite biting farm has always been SoSe/SoFo/QT, though it's kinda hard to successfully submit that one to arena. SoSe/(arena card)/QT/mark of arena card element works pretty well just in general (as a farm, I mean) if you spin a nymph or a squid or whatever and want to submit a farm.
Just made that very evil. Cocks... Life Mark + SoSe = Muts of evil galore :3.

 

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