The way I interpreted this, Planplan is going to do a standalone Flash program (swf-file) that does everything from creating the image to exporting it.Yes, I'm planning something like that, sorry for the lake of precisions, but it could be used online too. And I'm doing it in Flash because, with PHP, I can't render the fonts like Elements (Flash) do.
So it would be basically something like this: http://bighugelabs.com/motivator.php , only a Flash version.
That would make a lot more sense than to spend hours and hours of trying to integrate the code to our forum.
generateCard( title , element, type, cost, upgrade, description , attack, health, author)
generateCard('Purple Nymph', 1 , 1 , '9', false , '{1} {1} {1} {1} : Antimatter\nInvert the attack power of the target creature', '3' , '1' , null )Generate this. (http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/card.html)I finished the first prototype of the generator ! You can try it HERE (http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/card.html) !Looks awesome.
The Author input do nothing for the moment, you can't upload pictures and you can't put Elements icons in the description.
But I think it should now give you a clear idea of my goal, and there's maybe already things I can improve (making it real time, without the need of pressing Generate, maybe some icons instead of text and menus, but I'll see the usability later...).
Looks awesome.I have some idea but multiple brains have much more ^^
Here's my feedback:
(most of these I'm sure you are already aware of)
- cost could be a drop down menu from 0 to 20 (not 100% sure about this though)I'm using a free text input because it's less restrictive. Also, you have the option to write a "X" if the card have a variable cost.
- no need to have element selection next to cost because it's always the same as the element of the cardThat's true, but sometimes, you don't have any icon at all (Flying Weapon). But as Delreich suggested me, it'll be better to have an option to just have the icon or not, and retrieving the correct icon from the selected card element.
- attack/health thing could appear only after you've chosen "creature" and disappear if you choose something else. (very minor thing and definitely not needed if it takes more than 20 minutes to code)Nice ideas :)
- element selection could be both icon and element
- one option for layout could be so that the card image is in the center, and all the input fields and text boxes are around the image (title top-left, cost top-right, description bottom, etc.)
- if you want all the things in the same place like they are now, I would go with left->right, top->bottom method (when looking at the card). Something like this:
- title
- cost
- picture
- artist
- type (+ attack/health)
- description
- author
Those are just some ideas.
Have you looked into integrating your card generator with Imageshack or something?Not for the moment, but I will. I'll first just allow the user to download his card image, but if he could just sent it, that'll be much more simple.
Oh, wow. This is awesome stuff so far. Minor issue which you are probably already aware of:[/quote]You're right, I'll fix that.Attack|Health on the card is slightly cropped off. With 2 digits of attack or 2 digits of defense, the last digit may be slightly cropped.[/li]
Anyways, when you allow the insertion of images, will it be from a url or from a saved file?I think from a saved file first, but from an URL is a good idea too, much more flexible !
Well done, i like these kind of works.It's an idea worth digging, I understand your fear. Maybe I can add a "Custom card" or "Card idea" text somewhere on the card ?
Yet needs to be tweaked a bit but overall its clean and easy to use.
The only thing im bothering with is the clearly identical look of the output cards.
I found myself playing with SG's psd/pixle premade, trying to create an identical look. I ended up closing such a project.
I appreciate that we coult be able to do this. But i think there needs to be an "indicator" showing that these are Card Ideas, so there is no mistaking that these didnt get implemented next time.
Ok, all those cards will be found in the appropriate subforum. Its just to be clear or rather see it at the first glance.
One option is to add "Card Idea By: ****" right below the card image (still part of the same image of course). This way it won't interfere with the card itself. It also has the added benefit of not letting anyone steal ideas.Quote from: LyelleWell done, i like these kind of works.It's an idea worth digging, I understand your fear. Maybe I can add a "Custom card" or "Card idea" text somewhere on the card ?
Yet needs to be tweaked a bit but overall its clean and easy to use.
The only thing im bothering with is the clearly identical look of the output cards.
I found myself playing with SG's psd/pixle premade, trying to create an identical look. I ended up closing such a project.
I appreciate that we coult be able to do this. But i think there needs to be an "indicator" showing that these are Card Ideas, so there is no mistaking that these didnt get implemented next time.
Ok, all those cards will be found in the appropriate subforum. Its just to be clear or rather see it at the first glance.
I think from a saved file first, but from an URL is a good idea too, much more flexible !URL upload, however, promotes the use of copyrighted artwork.
Not everyone has your superior art skills, and I think it's understood that the images are just placeholders if the ideas are ever used. Though an "Art by:" field might help.I think from a saved file first, but from an URL is a good idea too, much more flexible !URL upload, however, promotes the use of copyrighted artwork.
Vrt was referring to the art itself.Me too.
I meant that it'd be more easy to use art without permission with a URL upload.Vrt was referring to the art itself.Me too.
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100115141206/elementsthegame/images/a/a8/Abomi.jpg)
Awwwww...... You sniped me AGAIN.If you want a project, here's one.
Pretty awesome work though
I recommend you move the "Art By:" thing on the bottom-left corner of the actual image (like in my Photoshop template). The problem with the blue text is that every single card idea image would have that blue text, giving us only 3 lines of text in the description.Vrt was referring to the art itself.Me too.
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100115141206/elementsthegame/images/a/a8/Abomi.jpg)
I'm using WAP so I can't quote.Sorry to say but this "coding battle" you definitely lost. Flash is ten times better in a project like this one. It looks better and is more versatile.
To SG:
Good idea. I'll work on it. But I'll still put some effort on this.
My version is PHP-based. ftbhrygvn.x10hosting.com/elements/card/ contains an earlier version. And ftbhrygvn.selfip.com/elements/card/, if it works, has the latest version.
To Planplan:
Seems that we always share the same ideas, so is there possibilities we can work together in the future?
Flash is ten times better in a project like this one. It looks better and is more versatile.Why? You can generate beautiful looking images with php. The UI ftb* made here is non-optimal but that could be tweaked easily.
I recommend you move the "Art By:" thing on the bottom-left corner of the actual image (like in my Photoshop template). The problem with the blue text is that every single card idea image would have that blue text, giving us only 3 lines of text in the description.You're right, I'll see if I can add it here.
And keep in mind that iPhones/Touches can't install Player.(http://files.myopera.com/comeaujim/albums/798921/Nelson%20Muntz%20-%20haha.gif)
Planplan:Why not just do different projects and inform the community about your plans beforehand?
I understand it's not anyone's fault that we have the same ideas. I'm just saying this: as we had have the same ideas, and it may happen again, why don't we work together? That way, we can prevent "idea collision" and finish the work quicker.
"Finish the work quicker" is one big point. But that should work alsoHaven't you heard the saying "too many cooks spoil the broth"?
it would be also nice if u could kinda copy the card so you could put them in forum but righ now you(at least i) cantYes, you will be able to save the card when the thing is finished. That's the whole point of this card generator.
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/m7Gbd59524/cat.png):P
I knew the biggest problem would be getting those ability icons between the text. Good luck.I just found how to do that, Adobe is making an object that allow you to add pictures in a text flow. I just need to understand it now...
One small bug (if you can call it that):I'll do a quick search if it's possible to add the extension, or maybe a default filename.
When I save and don't include the ".png" in the filename, it saves the file without any extensions. Maybe fix it so that it forces you to save as png?
I'm having trouble uploading my pictures to the card. Does it have to be a specific file type? I found a picture and resized it, but it won't upload while all my existing pictures will. Am I doing something wrong?What filetype is it?
Never mind, got it to work. Had .jpg instead of .JPG Not sure why that makes much of a difference. They're the same, aren't they? Guess not.This "bug" was a false alarm.
Old file and new file attached.
The file is actually a BMP file that has been renamed (not converted) to a JPG. That's why it failed.Well, if you change the extension name of a file, won't it corrupt the file or something? I'd expect the picture to be unreadable if I just rename it from .bmp to .jpg.
Um.. yeah. That's the point I was trying to make. Well.. it doesn't really "corrupt" the file, it just tells your computer to read it in a wrong way.The file is actually a BMP file that has been renamed (not converted) to a JPG. That's why it failed.Well, if you change the extension name of a file, won't it corrupt the file or something? I'd expect the picture to be unreadable if I just rename it from .bmp to .jpg.
Just a small suggestion, I added a picture larger than the size said and it overflowed the screen. Now I'm not normally that stupid to do such a thing, but someone else may try, and I just wanted to let you know.I'll work on this...
There's a way to put the quantum icons in the description?...after this work. ;)
What SG said. I had to explain this so many times at my last job to graphically challenged funeral directors when they would send me ".jpeg" files that never opened. ;)The file is actually a BMP file that has been renamed (not converted) to a JPG. That's why it failed.Well, if you change the extension name of a file, won't it corrupt the file or something? I'd expect the picture to be unreadable if I just rename it from .bmp to .jpg.
Just a small suggestion, I added a picture larger than the size said and it overflowed the screen. Now I'm not normally that stupid to do such a thing, but someone else may try, and I just wanted to let you know.If you really want to challenge yourself Planplan, make it possible to crop and resize pictures in the card generator itself. :)
No need to waste time on that at this point in my opinion.QuoteJust a small suggestion, I added a picture larger than the size said and it overflowed the screen. Now I'm not normally that stupid to do such a thing, but someone else may try, and I just wanted to let you know.If you really want to challenge yourself Planplan, make it possible to crop and resize pictures in the card generator itself. :)
An all-in-1 tool is more user-friendlyWell, of course it is. But if it's not needed at the moment, there's no point in wasting hours and hours on it. Lets not get greedy. Using that tool I just gave there (or any other image editing software) to make a 128x128 picture is ridiculously easy.
I switched to Flash because after some searching, I figured that Flash 8+ use his own font renderer, different from PHP GD's font renderer, Freetype. If I want to have the most accurate card, it gave me no other choice but switch to Flash. Now, I'm happy to work on this project because I finally found a good reason to learn Flash.Actually, PHP supports FreeType too. Forgot to mention that
Planplan, if you haven't already, you should allow for the inclusion of the element icons in the card description so we can generate fully functional cards.I'm working on it now, it's the most important missing thing I think.
In addition, if these are identical to the in-game card templates (it sure looks good enough to me), we could use this to generate any new cards to upload to the forum and wiki.I try to make them look as identical as possible, but their are some (minor) differences.
Planplan, while the big cards are awesome, I would prefer if you add an option to also be able to generate normal sized cards. Why not have both, when you can make cards that resemble real cards perfectly?Like I said, the program know how to do them, but I need to add the button for normal sized cards. Doing it right now (after a bit of cleaning).
Oh, I can simply shrink the image manually... OK... :P +karma then!It's possible, but the font will be pretty poor. Flash use a dedicated engine for small sized fonts.
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I'm pretty sure you are; lots have been doing it. But one main problem is that you can't add quanta icons to the description yet, so it may look strange if your card requires that.i know you can use it but will it get moved to crucible and beyond......
Regardless, this generator allows me to spend more time thinking about the idea than actually making it - precisely what I want. ;) Epic.